hierarchys - can you build an elegant hierarchy using vba

hi all

a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic hierarchy
using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )

or does anyone have an ocx etc ??

my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a drill up
and drill down function usinf standard excel

if you reply - thanks in advance


--
C Ward - a novice user !!!!

i should explain that my lsit is simple in nature

lets say


4 mm bar
8 mm bar
12 mm bar

all reporting up to bars which reports up to Total Steel

i.e a classic OLAP hierarcy ( sort of analysis server territory )

how can we do this in excel
--
C Ward


"christopher ward" wrote:

> hi all
>
> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic hierarchy
> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
>
> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
>
> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a drill up
> and drill down function usinf standard excel
>
> if you reply - thanks in advance
>
>
> --
> C Ward - a novice user !!!!

experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............

can anyone help ??

--
C Ward


"christopher ward" wrote:

> hi all
>
> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic hierarchy
> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
>
> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
>
> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a drill up
> and drill down function usinf standard excel
>
> if you reply - thanks in advance
>
>
> --
> C Ward - a novice user !!!!

What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?

Tim

"christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
>
> can anyone help ??
>
> --
> C Ward
>
>
> "christopher ward" wrote:
>
>> hi all
>>
>> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic hierarchy
>> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
>>
>> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
>>
>> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a drill
>> up
>> and drill down function usinf standard excel
>>
>> if you reply - thanks in advance
>>
>>
>> --
>> C Ward - a novice user !!!!

You can do quite a bit with XL and VBA as long as you have the time and/or
money to invest in it.

For a drilldown example see
PivotChart Drill-down
http://www.tushar-mehta.com/excel/so...own/index.html

--
Regards,

Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions

In article <FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com>,
christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
>
> can anyone help ??
>
>

i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e a
basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing this
naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must have
been done before


--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
>
> Tim
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> >
> > can anyone help ??
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "christopher ward" wrote:
> >
> >> hi all
> >>
> >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic hierarchy
> >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> >>
> >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> >>
> >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a drill
> >> up
> >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> >>
> >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
>
>
>

Christopher,

What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the concept
but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool for
creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?

Tim.

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Tim Williams
Palo Alto, CA


"christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e a
> basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing this
> naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must have
> been done before
>
>
> --
> C Ward
>
>
> "Tim Williams" wrote:
>
> > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > >
> > > can anyone help ??
> > >
> > > --
> > > C Ward
> > >
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > >
> > >> hi all
> > >>
> > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
hierarchy
> > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > >>
> > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > >>
> > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a
drill
> > >> up
> > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > >>
> > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> >
> >
> >

Dear Tim

sorry if i confussed the issue - all i want is to have a list of product
codes
in a data range lets say B10:B59 and be able to say this code reports to
Bars or Plates - i.e build a parent child relationship of course many levels
deep so i need my hierarchy to have a level number , a parent or child
relationship , a description - thus at any stage i can drill up or down on
any given member in a list box for example

i guess im trying to find an OCX or another item to add to the VBA toolkit

chris

--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the concept
> but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool for
> creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
>
> Tim.
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e a
> > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing this
> > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must have
> > been done before
> >
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > >
> > > > can anyone help ??
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> hi all
> > > >>
> > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
> hierarchy
> > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > >>
> > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > >>
> > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a
> drill
> > > >> up
> > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > >>
> > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add or
delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality will be
added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user friendly
- so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy generation
over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot table
does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats easy to
use - i can discuss offline if needed


--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the concept
> but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool for
> creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
>
> Tim.
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e a
> > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing this
> > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must have
> > been done before
> >
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > >
> > > > can anyone help ??
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> hi all
> > > >>
> > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
> hierarchy
> > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > >>
> > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > >>
> > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build a
> drill
> > > >> up
> > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > >>
> > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Would a treeview approach work in this context?
What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?

Tim

--
Tim Williams
Palo Alto, CA


"christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add or
> delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality will
be
> added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user
friendly
> - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy generation
> over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot
table
> does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats easy
to
> use - i can discuss offline if needed
>
>
> --
> C Ward
>
>
> "Tim Williams" wrote:
>
> > Christopher,
> >
> > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the
concept
> > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool
for
> > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> > --
> > Tim Williams
> > Palo Alto, CA
> >
> >
> > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e
a
> > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing
this
> > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must
have
> > > been done before
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C Ward
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
> > > > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > >
> > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > C Ward
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> hi all
> > > > >>
> > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
> > hierarchy
> > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > >>
> > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > >>
> > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build
a
> > drill
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > >>
> > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

what is a treeview ?

I guess at most a product dimension for me may have 4 levels and at the
lowest level maybe 500 products although this figure may be 50 depending on
who uses the sheet , lets say 50 codes who have 30 parents who have 4 parents
with a master code at top of hierarchy


--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add or
> > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality will
> be
> > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user
> friendly
> > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy generation
> > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot
> table
> > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats easy
> to
> > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> >
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher,
> > >
> > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the
> concept
> > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool
> for
> > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
> > >
> > > Tim.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Williams
> > > Palo Alto, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e
> a
> > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing
> this
> > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must
> have
> > > > been done before
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> > > > > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
> > > hierarchy
> > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build
> a
> > > drill
> > > > > >> up
> > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

best example could be

red balls
yellow balls
green balls

all reporting to snooker which in turn reports to games
--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add or
> > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality will
> be
> > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user
> friendly
> > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy generation
> > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot
> table
> > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats easy
> to
> > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> >
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher,
> > >
> > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the
> concept
> > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a tool
> for
> > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
> > >
> > > Tim.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Williams
> > > Palo Alto, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents - i.e
> a
> > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing
> this
> > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it must
> have
> > > > been done before
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> > > > > message news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a basic
> > > hierarchy
> > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to build
> a
> > > drill
> > > > > >> up
> > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

A treeview is like the "folder" view in windows explorer. Isn't that the
kind of thing you'd need in order for your user to visualize the connections
they're making?

Tim

--
Tim Williams
Palo Alto, CA


"christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:8EF2B7FA-A3F2-4EA8-ACF0-3267DA0E2A42@microsoft.com...
>
>
> what is a treeview ?
>
> I guess at most a product dimension for me may have 4 levels and at the
> lowest level maybe 500 products although this figure may be 50 depending
on
> who uses the sheet , lets say 50 codes who have 30 parents who have 4
parents
> with a master code at top of hierarchy
>
>
> --
> C Ward
>
>
> "Tim Williams" wrote:
>
> > Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> > What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --
> > Tim Williams
> > Palo Alto, CA
> >
> >
> > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add
or
> > > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality
will
> > be
> > > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user
> > friendly
> > > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy
generation
> > > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot
> > table
> > > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats
easy
> > to
> > > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C Ward
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Christopher,
> > > >
> > > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the
> > concept
> > > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a
tool
> > for
> > > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
> > > >
> > > > Tim.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Williams
> > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
> > > > message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents -
i.e
> > a
> > > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing
> > this
> > > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it
must
> > have
> > > > > been done before
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > C Ward
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
> > in
> > > > > > message
news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a
basic
> > > > hierarchy
> > > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to
build
> > a
> > > > drill
> > > > > > >> up
> > > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

dear tim sorry missed your reply

yes a treeview would be excellent - especially if it could add or delete new
members and/or move the members to different places

for any hierarchy i always want a level , a name , a member , a parent or
child - property against any member in the tree

so can excel do this or do we have an OCX control - as yet i have not seen
one and i am feeeling excel cannot do this elegantly
--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> A treeview is like the "folder" view in windows explorer. Isn't that the
> kind of thing you'd need in order for your user to visualize the connections
> they're making?
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:8EF2B7FA-A3F2-4EA8-ACF0-3267DA0E2A42@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > what is a treeview ?
> >
> > I guess at most a product dimension for me may have 4 levels and at the
> > lowest level maybe 500 products although this figure may be 50 depending
> on
> > who uses the sheet , lets say 50 codes who have 30 parents who have 4
> parents
> > with a master code at top of hierarchy
> >
> >
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> > > What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Williams
> > > Palo Alto, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > > > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to add
> or
> > > > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this functionality
> will
> > > be
> > > > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be user
> > > friendly
> > > > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy
> generation
> > > > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys - pivot
> > > table
> > > > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships thats
> easy
> > > to
> > > > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Christopher,
> > > > >
> > > > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand the
> > > concept
> > > > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is it a
> tool
> > > for
> > > > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or what ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tim Williams
> > > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> > > > > message news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and grandparents -
> i.e
> > > a
> > > > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP doing
> > > this
> > > > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me - it
> must
> > > have
> > > > > > been done before
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
> > > in
> > > > > > > message
> news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a
> basic
> > > > > hierarchy
> > > > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like to
> build
> > > a
> > > > > drill
> > > > > > > >> up
> > > > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

There is a treeview component you can use in VBA - if not in the toolbox
then right-click and choose "additional components" and look for "Microsoft
treeview..."

It will not hold all of the specific properties you list, but you should be
able to hold those in a collection of objects or similar construct and just
use the treeview to display the realtionships.

Tim

--
Tim Williams
Palo Alto, CA


"christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:1D3A0E0F-EEC3-471D-9EB8-9896E654E687@microsoft.com...
> dear tim sorry missed your reply
>
> yes a treeview would be excellent - especially if it could add or delete
new
> members and/or move the members to different places
>
> for any hierarchy i always want a level , a name , a member , a parent or
> child - property against any member in the tree
>
> so can excel do this or do we have an OCX control - as yet i have not seen
> one and i am feeeling excel cannot do this elegantly
> --
> C Ward
>
>
> "Tim Williams" wrote:
>
> > A treeview is like the "folder" view in windows explorer. Isn't that
the
> > kind of thing you'd need in order for your user to visualize the
connections
> > they're making?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --
> > Tim Williams
> > Palo Alto, CA
> >
> >
> > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:8EF2B7FA-A3F2-4EA8-ACF0-3267DA0E2A42@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > what is a treeview ?
> > >
> > > I guess at most a product dimension for me may have 4 levels and at
the
> > > lowest level maybe 500 products although this figure may be 50
depending
> > on
> > > who uses the sheet , lets say 50 codes who have 30 parents who have 4
> > parents
> > > with a master code at top of hierarchy
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C Ward
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> > > > What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Williams
> > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
> > > > message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > > > > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to
add
> > or
> > > > > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this
functionality
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be
user
> > > > friendly
> > > > > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy
> > generation
> > > > > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys -
pivot
> > > > table
> > > > > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships
thats
> > easy
> > > > to
> > > > > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > C Ward
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Christopher,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand
the
> > > > concept
> > > > > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is
it a
> > tool
> > > > for
> > > > > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or
what ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Tim Williams
> > > > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
> > in
> > > > > > message
news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and
grandparents -
> > i.e
> > > > a
> > > > > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP
doing
> > > > this
> > > > > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me -
it
> > must
> > > > have
> > > > > > > been done before
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tim
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "christopher ward"
<christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > message
> > news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a
> > basic
> > > > > > hierarchy
> > > > > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like
to
> > build
> > > > a
> > > > > > drill
> > > > > > > > >> up
> > > > > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

thank you i will work with this - it might do the job


--
C Ward


"Tim Williams" wrote:

> There is a treeview component you can use in VBA - if not in the toolbox
> then right-click and choose "additional components" and look for "Microsoft
> treeview..."
>
> It will not hold all of the specific properties you list, but you should be
> able to hold those in a collection of objects or similar construct and just
> use the treeview to display the realtionships.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Williams
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
> "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:1D3A0E0F-EEC3-471D-9EB8-9896E654E687@microsoft.com...
> > dear tim sorry missed your reply
> >
> > yes a treeview would be excellent - especially if it could add or delete
> new
> > members and/or move the members to different places
> >
> > for any hierarchy i always want a level , a name , a member , a parent or
> > child - property against any member in the tree
> >
> > so can excel do this or do we have an OCX control - as yet i have not seen
> > one and i am feeeling excel cannot do this elegantly
> > --
> > C Ward
> >
> >
> > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> >
> > > A treeview is like the "folder" view in windows explorer. Isn't that
> the
> > > kind of thing you'd need in order for your user to visualize the
> connections
> > > they're making?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Williams
> > > Palo Alto, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:8EF2B7FA-A3F2-4EA8-ACF0-3267DA0E2A42@microsoft.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > what is a treeview ?
> > > >
> > > > I guess at most a product dimension for me may have 4 levels and at
> the
> > > > lowest level maybe 500 products although this figure may be 50
> depending
> > > on
> > > > who uses the sheet , lets say 50 codes who have 30 parents who have 4
> > > parents
> > > > with a master code at top of hierarchy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > C Ward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Would a treeview approach work in this context?
> > > > > What volume of data - 100's, 1000's of records?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tim Williams
> > > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> > > > > message news:0CF0F261-F255-40E9-8220-702EE6F3C2EB@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > i should also add if I have a hierarchy on products i need code to
> add
> > > or
> > > > > > delete or move any given item in the hierarchy - this
> functionality
> > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > added to a system i have written in Excel 2003 and needs to be
> user
> > > > > friendly
> > > > > > - so far the systems works but i see no easy way for hierarchy
> > > generation
> > > > > > over many dimensions even if they only have single hierarchys -
> pivot
> > > > > table
> > > > > > does not help me - i need raw codde to create the relationships
> thats
> > > easy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > use - i can discuss offline if needed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christopher,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What does this translate to in terms of Excel ? I understand
> the
> > > > > concept
> > > > > > > but what should the resulting excel file be able to *do* ? Is
> it a
> > > tool
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > creating the relationships, displaying the relationships, or
> what ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tim.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Tim Williams
> > > > > > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "christopher ward" <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
> > > in
> > > > > > > message
> news:FABCF318-651C-4015-B53C-6F307A42D9C4@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > i have a sheet with a number of product codes as an example
> > > > > > > > using a hierarchy tool i want to create parents and
> grandparents -
> > > i.e
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > basic olap hierarchy on a dimension ( im used to Oracle OLAP
> doing
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > naturally ) but i suspect i need an OCX control to help me -
> it
> > > must
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been done before
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tim Williams" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What is it that you want your drill up/down function to do?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tim
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "christopher ward"
> <christopherward@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > message
> > > news:FA96D029-ABBA-4FAB-94AF-DFE7361A4ECE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > experts - I assume excel can not do this ...............
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > can anyone help ??
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > C Ward
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "christopher ward" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> hi all
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> a question to all you experts - is it possible to build a
> > > basic
> > > > > > > hierarchy
> > > > > > > > > >> using vba ( I know Vb has an object in its toolbox )
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> or does anyone have an ocx etc ??
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> my sheet has a range of product values and i would like
> to
> > > build
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > drill
> > > > > > > > > >> up
> > > > > > > > > >> and drill down function usinf standard excel
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> if you reply - thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > >> C Ward - a novice user !!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>