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    Roulette Win/Lose column

    Hi, I'm working with Excel 97 and am making a basic spreadsheet to evaluate roulette results (single '0' and double '00' wheels) with even/odd (red/black) bets so I can compare results to probability percentages for different betting systems.


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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    If you can explain the rules of roulette im sure i can help

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    And I wouldn't mind knowing how doing calculations on previous roulette spins helps? Each spin of the wheel represents that exact same chances as the spin prior. Prior events have no causal effect on subsequent spins.
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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    Unless it's a eletronic roulette, designed to cheat
    Never use Merged Cells in Excel

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    Here is a basic explanation:

    http://casino.bodog.com/guide/roulette.html


    Here is a more detailed explanation:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette


    My spreadsheet has to do with the Outside "even money" bets only.

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    No, my research has nothing to do with previous bets but with win/lose conditions.
    And yes, I believe computer games can be set to cheat, and probably are.
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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    OK, now I have figured out how to get '0' to come up as a 'L' for lose in C3 from A3 with:
    Last edited by SloJoe; 11-07-2009 at 06:10 AM.

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    Alright!! I got it all squared away and this section of the spreadsheet is SWEET!!

    Thanks for all the help, you guys are just great. I'll know where NOT to go when I need help in the future.

    And oh, by the way, I have found something that gives me a greater statistical advantage. I just wanted something that I can test my system on that will give me a much larger test population more quickly.

    TTFN

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    well blow me ,what do you expect this isnt an instant fix it service!
    its just over 24 hrs since your first post and you're moaning?
    So now my question is, how to merge these two into one function and get it to compare with B3 with L for lose and W for win in C3.?
    compare how? what result would you expect

    And oh, by the way, I have found something that gives me a greater statistical advantage
    well you must be the casino owner then!
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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    SJ, I think no one understood your question (I got the roulette part, but nary a clue as to the Excel part). On a good day, some kind soul would start a round of 20 Questions to find out; on others, people will just find another thread that is clearly stated and answer that.

    Don't let that dissuade you, though, from following your gambler's instinct and not allowing us the opportunity to not assist you again.
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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    Quote Originally Posted by martindwilson View Post

    well you must be the casino owner then!
    lol.....

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    No such thing as a statistical advantage if you're actually playing roulette. Statistics are an interesting and fun exercise for the math buffs. But when the wheel spins...every number has an equal chance to occur on every spin. There is no causal effect from one spin to the next....Regardless of what the statistical results are.

    The idea that people can be fooled into thinking there is an effect is why Roulette wheels now have the "past 20 spins panel" displayed proudly at every table. People actually stand there and stare at it as if the information there was actually meaningful .

    Result: more money for casino.

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    LOL, some of you guys are really funny! If you want to learn something, go take a look at what a man named Demming was able to accomplish in Japan with statistics. From what you have said you show that you have NO IDEA of what you are talking about. I already told you that what I am researching has NOTHING to do with going to a roulette table and attempting to bet based on past results. Well, I am not going to explain to you what SPC is, but I have seen it work wonders. Have fun stumbling in the dark.

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    nope ,you are missing the point
    what was your specific excel question ?
    i didnt understand what you were asking hence the quote in my first post
    and i'm glad we brightened up your day with some witty banter

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    All hail SloJoe, the man who has figured out how to predict random events! Can you tell me what the lottery numbers for this week are going to be?

    SPC is used when you can actually control, influence, or at least accurately measure the process producing the results. You won't even have access to the precise conditions of the process. Things that are random, like how fast the croupier spins the wheel and precisely when he lets the ball go, will not be under your control and will not be known until it is too late. Also, it's Deming, not Demming.
    Last edited by darkyam; 11-07-2009 at 11:57 PM.

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    Re: Roulette Win/Lose column

    Here:

    http://www.roulette-cheat-guide.com/

    However, I didn't test it and I don't know what it's about (it's just first google output), I share above opinion that you can't beat casino (and main reason why it's true is because they still exist ), and I don't promote gambling.

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