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    Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    I'm trying to figure out how to do seasonal forecasting based on volumes. I tried to use FORECAST but the numbers are not accurate.

    I have actual data to work with to come up with my forecasting on a monthly basis. Our yearly calender is from Nov 08 to Oct 09.

    Here's a sample of the data.

    Nov-08 Dec-08 Jan-09 Feb-09
    116,529 116,579 115,990 116,478
    1,197 1,212 1,261 1,255
    1,021 713 985 1,268

    How do I do my forecasting for Mar-09? It has to be seasonal differences.

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    You only have four months of data -- how could you extract seasonal variation from that? Five or ten years worth would be a good start.
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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    I didn't provide all the data. I have 2 years worth of data. By seasonal I mean seasonal within each year.

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    And, without providing the data, you'd like a seasonal estimate?

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Sorry. Here's the data.

    Nov-06 Dec-06 Jan-07 Feb-07 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-07 Jun-07 Jul-07 Aug-07 Sep-07 Oct-07 Nov-07 Dec-07 Jan-08 Feb-08 Mar-08 Apr-08 May-08 Jun-08 Jul-08 Aug-08 Sep-08 Oct-08 Nov-08 Dec-08 Jan-09 Feb-09
    99,657 99,955 99,683 100,223 101,334 101,535 103,412 103,982 105,070 105,651 105,967 111,528 109,924 110,355 110,336 111,463 111,951 112,601 114,064 114,463 116,261 115,411 115,985 116,463 116,529 116,579 115,990 116,478
    840 840 840 701 825 820 812 827 842 857 872 887 902 917 930 780 911 909 896 1,014 1,037 981 792 1,184 1,197 1,212 1,261 1,255

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Wow that looks terrible, how do I attach a file? It's asking me for a URL.

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Hit Reply, push the button with the paper clip (or scroll down to the Manage Attachments button), browse to the file, press Upload.

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    I've attached the file. Thanks.
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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    This may be correct, but I couldn't swear to it. I see very little seasonal variation in the data.
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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Thanks for your help. Can you please provide a little bit of explanation on the logic behind your calculations?

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    The line below the data takes the ratio of the month to the yearly average excluding the month. (Literature says to compute two averages, and then average them: six months before plus five months after, and five months before plus six months after. The filter I use does that in simpler fashion.)

    The line below that normalizes the average about 1, i.e., the average of the second row is exactly one. (It would be better if there were more than one whole year of data).

    The forecast uses an underlying exponential fit (the GROWTH function) to forecast the growth, corrected by the seasonal variation computed above.

    I think the whole thing would be accurate if you had an integer number of years (several, four or five) over which to compute the seasonal variation. As it is, the seasonal variation itself affects the exponential fit -- but again, there ain't much seasonal variation.

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Thanks for all your help. And no I don't work for the Fed! lol

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    You’re welcome. Would you please mark the thread as Solved?

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    Just a quick question , how you have got Averaging filter? and how gorwth function work

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    I have the same question re the averaging filter!

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    Re: Seasonal Forecasting Trend

    For deriving a seasonal (monthly) factor, you want a centered average. That would be easy if a year had 11 months, an odd number; you would average the values from five previous through five following.

    Inconveniently, a year has 12 months, an even number. So instead, you average 13 months, with half the weight applied to the months at either end.

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