maybe now someone will help me?? noone has responded to my last 2 posts so I am trying to figure it out myself, am trying to build a macro and need to select RELATIVE REFERENCE before I record it, that "stop recording" toolbar was there the first time i tried to record the macro with the button to select relative reference but now every time i try to record the macro that toolbar isnt there anymore and the macro wont work unless i can first select relative reference, please help before i take the sledge to this computer PLEASE!!!