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How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

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    gary_h
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    How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

    The only available sort sequences I can find in EXCEL are ASCII and some
    customized DAY/DATE sorts. I would like to sort in EBCDIC sequence. I tried
    to make a customized sort list (i.e. A,B,C....X,Y,Z,1,2....8,9), but that
    only seems to work on the first character within a cell. It returned P7
    before PA on my sort.

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    Doug Kanter
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    Re: How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?


    "gary_h" <gary_h@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F13ECCE5-A2C5-42F8-8C8A-D9A668078B22@microsoft.com...
    > The only available sort sequences I can find in EXCEL are ASCII and some
    > customized DAY/DATE sorts. I would like to sort in EBCDIC sequence. I
    > tried
    > to make a customized sort list (i.e. A,B,C....X,Y,Z,1,2....8,9), but that
    > only seems to work on the first character within a cell. It returned P7
    > before PA on my sort.



    Referesh my memory - what's EBCDIC?



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    Bruce Sinclair
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    Re: How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

    In article <dFFRf.2799$kg.294@news02.roc.ny>, "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >"gary_h" <gary_h@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >news:F13ECCE5-A2C5-42F8-8C8A-D9A668078B22@microsoft.com...
    >> The only available sort sequences I can find in EXCEL are ASCII and some
    >> customized DAY/DATE sorts. I would like to sort in EBCDIC sequence. I
    >> tried
    >> to make a customized sort list (i.e. A,B,C....X,Y,Z,1,2....8,9), but that
    >> only seems to work on the first character within a cell. It returned P7
    >> before PA on my sort.


    >Referesh my memory - what's EBCDIC?


    ... and old character coding system system IIRC

    That said, I think ther are 2 obvious options :
    1) Make up a 'custom sort list' in the order you want it and sort using that
    2) use a helper column in much the same way.

    HTH


    Bruce

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    David McRitchie
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    Re: How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

    Hi Gary,

    Aside to Doug -- EBCDIC a much more logical assignment of numbers and letters <grin>

    It's a bit messy but you can create another column that you can sort on.
    The problem is that ASCII is not really the collating sequence used in Excel
    and it makes a difference if it is one more characters, but the main thing
    is that letters will sort before digits. see
    Sorting as if EBCDIC as on a mainframe (#ebcdic)
    http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/sorting.htm#ebcdic
    ---
    HTH,
    David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
    My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
    Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm



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    gary_h
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    Re: How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

    EBCDIC is an acronym for Extended Binary-Coded Decimal Interchange Code. It
    is used mainly on mainframes. ASCII is used mainly on PC's. EBCDIC used
    hexadecimal representation (i.e. 00 through FF). The letter A is C1, J is
    D1, S is E2, zero is F0, space is 40, etc.
    Gary H.

    "Doug Kanter" wrote:

    >
    > "gary_h" <gary_h@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F13ECCE5-A2C5-42F8-8C8A-D9A668078B22@microsoft.com...
    > > The only available sort sequences I can find in EXCEL are ASCII and some
    > > customized DAY/DATE sorts. I would like to sort in EBCDIC sequence. I
    > > tried
    > > to make a customized sort list (i.e. A,B,C....X,Y,Z,1,2....8,9), but that
    > > only seems to work on the first character within a cell. It returned P7
    > > before PA on my sort.

    >
    >
    > Referesh my memory - what's EBCDIC?
    >
    >
    >


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    Bruce Sinclair
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    Re: How do I sort by EBCDIC sequence in EXCEL?

    In article <92E02F56-EC1B-401C-86E0-407DAAFF1D9B@microsoft.com>, =?Utf-8?B?Z2FyeV9o?= <garyh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >EBCDIC is an acronym for Extended Binary-Coded Decimal Interchange Code. It
    >is used mainly on mainframes. ASCII is used mainly on PC's. EBCDIC used
    >hexadecimal representation (i.e. 00 through FF). The letter A is C1, J is
    >D1, S is E2, zero is F0, space is 40, etc.


    ... and IIRC you can do "accurate" calculations (meaning rounding error
    free) with it, as many calculators do. ?

    Bruce

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    I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good
    people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and
    only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.

    Lord Vetinari in Guards ! Guards ! - Terry Pratchett

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