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Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

  1. #1
    hybrazil@gmail.com
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    Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

    Hello,
    I am having a strange problem with a worksheet my colleague sent me.
    When I use CTRL-+ to insert a row it works fine.
    But if I try to repeat the action with the F4 key (same behaviour with
    CTRL-Y) Excel does the "Goto Special" action.
    I'm going crazy about this, there seems not to be any macro associated
    to the function key too, please help!
    The F4 key works fine in a blank worksheet.

    Thanks


  2. #2
    hybrazil@gmail.com
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    Re: Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

    almost forgetting..it's Excel 2003 with SP1


  3. #3
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

    Can you do one more test?

    Start excel in safe mode
    close excel
    windows start button|Run button
    excel /safe

    file|open your workbook

    Does F4 work ok now?

    If it does, I'm guessing that you do have a macro.

    ps. F5 is the shortcut for edit|goto (not special, though). Any chance you
    just hit the wrong key?



    hybrazil@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    > Hello,
    > I am having a strange problem with a worksheet my colleague sent me.
    > When I use CTRL-+ to insert a row it works fine.
    > But if I try to repeat the action with the F4 key (same behaviour with
    > CTRL-Y) Excel does the "Goto Special" action.
    > I'm going crazy about this, there seems not to be any macro associated
    > to the function key too, please help!
    > The F4 key works fine in a blank worksheet.
    >
    > Thanks


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    Dave Peterson

  4. #4
    David McRitchie
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    Re: Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

    Keyboard shortcut documentation inconsistencies in Excel 2003
    for Ctrl+A and probably for F4 (inconsistent to prior versions)

    I would suggest you use Ctrl+Y as is both documented and
    shown in the Edit menu; therefore, less subject to "improvement"
    and most of all because it was consistent with documentation,
    and it works in your Excel 2003 (and F4 you found not to be consistent).

    That little footnote about being Excel 2003 might be very important.
    as Excel 2003 did mess up use of Ctrl+A for which you would have
    to use Ctrl+Shift+SpaceBar to work the same as Ctrl+A in any other
    application or previous version of Excel. It is a combination of
    Select all columns and Select all rows, but is actually undocumented
    for such cell selection, but is documented to select all objects.

    I'm using Excel 2000 but did write a macro to work with Excel 2003 to
    make Ctrl+A work properly unless macros are turned off.
    http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel...x2k.htm#foobar

    From Excel 2000 Help, Some differences in these keys as documented
    that could lead to future "improvement" due documentation discrepancies.

    Ctrl+G (GoTo) is a shortcut that Excel help left out of their documentation
    but you will find in the menus.
    http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/shortx2k.htm#menus

    Probably a potential for more serious problems in Word where there are
    even more shortcuts for Redo and/or Repeat, as it appears that
    Alt+Shift+Backspace is listed for Redo but not repeat ; whereas, others listed
    shortcuts as being for both Redo and Repeat.

    BTW, Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar in Word creates a nonbreaking space character.

    FWIW, I couldn't find any other reference to Ctrl+Y and F4 being
    inconsistent.
    ---
    HTH,
    David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
    My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
    Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm

    <hybrazil@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1120471269.009139.275540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
    > Hello,
    > I am having a strange problem with a worksheet my colleague sent me.
    > When I use CTRL-+ to insert a row it works fine.
    > But if I try to repeat the action with the F4 key (same behaviour with
    > CTRL-Y) Excel does the "Goto Special" action.
    > I'm going crazy about this, there seems not to be any macro associated
    > to the function key too, please help!
    > The F4 key works fine in a blank worksheet.
    >
    > Thanks
    >




  5. #5
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: Repeat key (F4, CTRL+Y) strange behaviour

    It sure looks to me like ctrl-y and F4 work the same way as they did in previous
    versions.

    I think that there's something else poking its head in.

    David McRitchie wrote:
    >
    > Keyboard shortcut documentation inconsistencies in Excel 2003
    > for Ctrl+A and probably for F4 (inconsistent to prior versions)
    >
    > I would suggest you use Ctrl+Y as is both documented and
    > shown in the Edit menu; therefore, less subject to "improvement"
    > and most of all because it was consistent with documentation,
    > and it works in your Excel 2003 (and F4 you found not to be consistent).
    >
    > That little footnote about being Excel 2003 might be very important.
    > as Excel 2003 did mess up use of Ctrl+A for which you would have
    > to use Ctrl+Shift+SpaceBar to work the same as Ctrl+A in any other
    > application or previous version of Excel. It is a combination of
    > Select all columns and Select all rows, but is actually undocumented
    > for such cell selection, but is documented to select all objects.
    >
    > I'm using Excel 2000 but did write a macro to work with Excel 2003 to
    > make Ctrl+A work properly unless macros are turned off.
    > http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel...x2k.htm#foobar
    >
    > From Excel 2000 Help, Some differences in these keys as documented
    > that could lead to future "improvement" due documentation discrepancies.
    >
    > Ctrl+G (GoTo) is a shortcut that Excel help left out of their documentation
    > but you will find in the menus.
    > http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/shortx2k.htm#menus
    >
    > Probably a potential for more serious problems in Word where there are
    > even more shortcuts for Redo and/or Repeat, as it appears that
    > Alt+Shift+Backspace is listed for Redo but not repeat ; whereas, others listed
    > shortcuts as being for both Redo and Repeat.
    >
    > BTW, Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar in Word creates a nonbreaking space character.
    >
    > FWIW, I couldn't find any other reference to Ctrl+Y and F4 being
    > inconsistent.
    > ---
    > HTH,
    > David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
    > My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
    > Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm
    >
    > <hybrazil@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1120471269.009139.275540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
    > > Hello,
    > > I am having a strange problem with a worksheet my colleague sent me.
    > > When I use CTRL-+ to insert a row it works fine.
    > > But if I try to repeat the action with the F4 key (same behaviour with
    > > CTRL-Y) Excel does the "Goto Special" action.
    > > I'm going crazy about this, there seems not to be any macro associated
    > > to the function key too, please help!
    > > The F4 key works fine in a blank worksheet.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >


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    Dave Peterson

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