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    Dave Peterson
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    Re: How to write an EMPTY cell?

    Another option is to use format|Conditional formatting. Make the font match the
    fill if the value is 0. (white on white?).

    Or maybe you could adjust the subsequent formulas:

    Instead of =a1+b1+c1, you could use: =sum(a1:c1)

    Instead of =A1+d1+g99, you could use: =n(a1)+n(d1)+n(g99)



    Frank News wrote:
    >
    > Nope. I do need the cell to be NULL or EMPTY. The cells are formatted as
    > Numeric with 2 decimals and I can't change that either.
    >
    > I am also surprised there seems to be no way to do this. There are many
    > references to empty cells but they really mean one that just looks empty.
    >
    > Frank Livni
    > frank@mstate.com
    > Multi-State Systems, Inc.
    > (916) 966-1519
    >
    > "Alan" <alan@alan.alan> wrote in message
    > news:umeatp7dFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > > "Frank News" <newsreply@mstate.com> wrote in message
    > > news:%238Y4Rk7dFHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > >>
    > >> As part of a formula (or as part of Copy->PasteSpecial, I need to
    > >> overwrite a column of cells with either data or leave empty.
    > >> Example, =(if a<>b,c,"") - where c is a number - doesn't work

    > > because
    > >> it puts a blank in the cell.
    > >> Example, =(if a<>b,c,0) - where c is a number - doesn't work because
    > >> it puts a zero in the cell.
    > >>
    > >> I don't want to use Tools->Options to show the cells as empty rather
    > >> than
    > >> 0.00 because that will be so for the whole sheet, not just the one
    > >> column I am worrying about.
    > >>
    > >> I am trying to update a protected sheet automatically from a second
    > >> sheet and only the 2 columns I am supposed to enter data into are
    > >> unprotected (can be changed). I have the whole thing working now
    > >> with a macro except for the cells which are supposed to remain

    > > empty.
    > >> If I use "" then it messes up a subsequent formula, and if I use 0
    > >> then it looks wrong (I want to place the value in each cell of the
    > >> column only if it meets a certain condition, else leave it empty.
    > >>
    > >> Is there a way to make a cell empty as opposed to just looking

    > > empty?
    > >> I tried to replace all 0 with <delete key> but that didn't work ...
    > >>
    > >> Looking for ideas ...
    > >>
    > >> TIA
    > >>
    > >> Fran

    > >
    > > Hi Frank,
    > >
    > > If I understand correctly, then you want a function to return a NULL
    > > value.
    > >
    > > Unfortunately, no such worksheet function exists. This has been, in
    > > my opinion, a serious omission in excel for many years.
    > >
    > > As you correctly point out, an empty string ("") is not the same thing
    > > as nothing or a NULL value, and nor is the numeric value zero.
    > >
    > > As a workaround, could you use 'Not applicable' perhaps?
    > >
    > > =(if a<>b,c,NA())
    > >
    > >
    > > This works well in charting situations for example.
    > >
    > >
    > > HTH,
    > >
    > > Alan.
    > >
    > >


    --

    Dave Peterson

  2. #2
    Frank News
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    Re: How to write an EMPTY cell?

    My problem is that the worksheet is protected and I cannot change anything
    else on it.
    It was built for someone to enter the data manually - but I have about 2000
    rows of data, with only some rows changing on a daily basis, and want to
    automate the process as it is not only time-consuming, but probe to errors
    if manually updated. It is a column of prices that change. The subsequent
    formulas will still work if I use if(a<>b,c,0) and then go to
    Tools->Options->Zeroes and uncheck display zeroes. Then the sheet looks
    fine (even though the cells may contain zeroes). I am not happy about that
    as it will also suppress the zero display in other parts of the sheet.

    Can't change format - it is locked.

    Frank

    "Dave Peterson" <ec35720@netscapeXSPAM.com> wrote in message
    news:42BA955C.1732BEF6@netscapeXSPAM.com...
    > Another option is to use format|Conditional formatting. Make the font
    > match the
    > fill if the value is 0. (white on white?).
    >
    > Or maybe you could adjust the subsequent formulas:
    >
    > Instead of =a1+b1+c1, you could use: =sum(a1:c1)
    >
    > Instead of =A1+d1+g99, you could use: =n(a1)+n(d1)+n(g99)
    >
    >
    >
    > Frank News wrote:
    >>
    >> Nope. I do need the cell to be NULL or EMPTY. The cells are formatted
    >> as
    >> Numeric with 2 decimals and I can't change that either.
    >>
    >> I am also surprised there seems to be no way to do this. There are many
    >> references to empty cells but they really mean one that just looks empty.
    >>
    >> Frank Livni
    >> frank@mstate.com
    >> Multi-State Systems, Inc.
    >> (916) 966-1519
    >>
    >> "Alan" <alan@alan.alan> wrote in message
    >> news:umeatp7dFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> > "Frank News" <newsreply@mstate.com> wrote in message
    >> > news:%238Y4Rk7dFHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >> >>
    >> >> As part of a formula (or as part of Copy->PasteSpecial, I need to
    >> >> overwrite a column of cells with either data or leave empty.
    >> >> Example, =(if a<>b,c,"") - where c is a number - doesn't work
    >> > because
    >> >> it puts a blank in the cell.
    >> >> Example, =(if a<>b,c,0) - where c is a number - doesn't work because
    >> >> it puts a zero in the cell.
    >> >>
    >> >> I don't want to use Tools->Options to show the cells as empty rather
    >> >> than
    >> >> 0.00 because that will be so for the whole sheet, not just the one
    >> >> column I am worrying about.
    >> >>
    >> >> I am trying to update a protected sheet automatically from a second
    >> >> sheet and only the 2 columns I am supposed to enter data into are
    >> >> unprotected (can be changed). I have the whole thing working now
    >> >> with a macro except for the cells which are supposed to remain
    >> > empty.
    >> >> If I use "" then it messes up a subsequent formula, and if I use 0
    >> >> then it looks wrong (I want to place the value in each cell of the
    >> >> column only if it meets a certain condition, else leave it empty.
    >> >>
    >> >> Is there a way to make a cell empty as opposed to just looking
    >> > empty?
    >> >> I tried to replace all 0 with <delete key> but that didn't work ...
    >> >>
    >> >> Looking for ideas ...
    >> >>
    >> >> TIA
    >> >>
    >> >> Fran
    >> >
    >> > Hi Frank,
    >> >
    >> > If I understand correctly, then you want a function to return a NULL
    >> > value.
    >> >
    >> > Unfortunately, no such worksheet function exists. This has been, in
    >> > my opinion, a serious omission in excel for many years.
    >> >
    >> > As you correctly point out, an empty string ("") is not the same thing
    >> > as nothing or a NULL value, and nor is the numeric value zero.
    >> >
    >> > As a workaround, could you use 'Not applicable' perhaps?
    >> >
    >> > =(if a<>b,c,NA())
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > This works well in charting situations for example.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > HTH,
    >> >
    >> > Alan.
    >> >
    >> >

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson




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