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Excel Crashes Repeatedly

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    Bill Martin -- (Remove NOSPAM from address)
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    Excel Crashes Repeatedly

    I have a Monte Carlo analysis that runs on my Excel 97 and as desired
    will run for as many hours as I allow it. It's a bunch of spreadsheet
    code that's tied together by a fairly simple VBA macro to plug
    semi-random numbers into the spreadsheet and monitor the results.

    If Excel is the only program active, then all is well and it will run to
    conclusion in 10 hours or so. However when something else is running
    such as a browser, e-mail, screen saver, etc., it will regularly lock up
    Excel and XP reports it as "program not responding". Closing Excel is
    the only answer.

    My question is whether I've overlooked something in VBA that one needs
    to do to periodically relinquish control of the system or something? I
    wouldn't think such a thing would be necessary, but I can't imagine what
    else is going on.

    Thanks...

    Bill

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    Nick Hodge
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    Re: Excel Crashes Repeatedly

    Bill

    It really depends on your code. If it runs for that length of time you
    should make sure it releases all variables on each iteration and clear
    clipboard, etc

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    HTH
    Nick Hodge
    Microsoft MVP - Excel
    Southampton, England
    nick_hodgeTAKETHISOUT@zen.co.uk.ANDTHIS


    "Bill Martin -- (Remove NOSPAM from address)" <wylie@earthNOSPAMlink.net>
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    >I have a Monte Carlo analysis that runs on my Excel 97 and as desired will
    >run for as many hours as I allow it. It's a bunch of spreadsheet code
    >that's tied together by a fairly simple VBA macro to plug semi-random
    >numbers into the spreadsheet and monitor the results.
    >
    > If Excel is the only program active, then all is well and it will run to
    > conclusion in 10 hours or so. However when something else is running such
    > as a browser, e-mail, screen saver, etc., it will regularly lock up Excel
    > and XP reports it as "program not responding". Closing Excel is the only
    > answer.
    >
    > My question is whether I've overlooked something in VBA that one needs to
    > do to periodically relinquish control of the system or something? I
    > wouldn't think such a thing would be necessary, but I can't imagine what
    > else is going on.
    >
    > Thanks...
    >
    > Bill




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    Correct

    It's likely a buffer overflow error caused by your clipboard not being cleared. Something running for that long can easily cause this type of issue. I imagine the crashes only occur if it's been running for an extended period. If not, please update and include any error messages you're receiving.

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    Bill Martin -- (Remove NOSPAM from address)
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    Re: Excel Crashes Repeatedly

    Nick Hodge wrote:
    > Bill
    >
    > It really depends on your code. If it runs for that length of time you
    > should make sure it releases all variables on each iteration and clear
    > clipboard, etc
    >


    Hmmm.... The Monte Carlo macro itself is dead simple and doesn't really
    use any variables other than an integer index for the outer For/Next
    loop. Other than that it just sets a few cells equal to the contents of
    some others plus/minus a random delta. And then looks at the single
    resultant cell to decide whether to keep these new values or not.

    Buried within the spreadsheet code being used though are custom VBA
    evaluation functions that set up fairly large data arrays and operates
    on them. These functions are probably called 20 or 30 times for each
    pass of the low content Monte Carlo routine itself. I would think that
    these functions release their memory each time they complete execution
    though.

    I'll go through all the code again though with an eye to that sort of
    problem. And thanks for the suggestion...

    Somehow the act of XP moving it's focus among the various active
    programs seems to trip up Excel. Like it's a memory management issue
    perhaps. Maybe I'll send a copy of the sheet to a friend who has the
    current version of Excel to see if it runs any more robustly on his machine.

    Bill

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    Bill Martin -- (Remove NOSPAM from address)
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    Re: Excel Crashes Repeatedly

    guilbj2 wrote:
    > It's likely a buffer overflow error caused by your clipboard not being
    > cleared. Something running for that long can easily cause this type of
    > issue. I imagine the crashes only occur if it's been running for an
    > extended period. If not, please update and include any error messages
    > you're receiving.
    >
    >


    There are no error messages. Excel just goes silent and sits quietly
    frozen doing nothing. If I invoke the XP task manager it simply says
    that Excel is not responding. The only way out of the situation is to
    kill Excel and restart it from scratch.

    I do not use the clip board for anything in this program. However, is
    there some VBA command I could use to flush the clip board periodically
    to verify this is not a problem?

    The system will never crash if Excel is the only thing running so I
    wouldn't think it's some simple buffer overflow caused by Excel alone.
    On the other hand there may be some problem with Excel storing away it's
    buffers as XP switches the task about?

    If I run other simple tasks, Excel may freeze up immediately or in two
    hours or never. I do not see this Excel behavior though while I have
    other spreadsheets active -- which of course aren't doing anything but
    sitting passively anyhow. I don't have any other spreadsheets that take
    extended time to run. Perhaps I should create another one that does
    nothing but burn execution cycles and see how stable that is....

    Bill

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