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  1. #1
    Jordon
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    Re: scientific notation

    Don't waste your time. The guy is either a troll or the most immature
    person to visit a newsgroup. He'd probably walk into an AA meeting,
    offering to buy a round for the group and when no one took him up
    on his offer, start preaching that AA is a cult.

    "JE McGimpsey"wrote
    > You obviously don't have very much experience with other software. XL
    > has bugs, but there are far more worthy candidates for your hyperbole.
    >
    > Take a look at "About custom number formats" in XL Help.
    >
    >
    > In article <1118155818.587107.23160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
    > "aaron.kempf@gmail.com" <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Excel doesnt work.
    > >
    > > I mean-- i have a column with mixed large numbers; and excel keeps on
    > > rendering it as scientific notation.. i mean-- wtf is up with Excel; it
    > > is like the most buggy program ever written




  2. #2
    aaron.kempf@gmail.com
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    Re: scientific notation

    the formatting doesn't work as advertised.

    how do i get rid of scientific notation in cells from excel?

    i never want to see any scientific notation in another cell-- ever
    again.

    how do i import it into a database without having it cough?

    it should all be easier-- it should all be more reliable.

    and i just wish that MS would fix these bugs.. i mean.. use the
    product-- get a newbie and watch them and make it more useable.

    it doesn't work.. i've worked with hundreds of newbies before.. and im
    just tired of apologizing for the bugginess of the software..

    i just wish that things would work reliably.


  3. #3
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: scientific notation

    <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote...
    >the formatting doesn't work as advertised.


    Yes it does, but you don't seem to understand the specs.

    >how do i get rid of scientific notation in cells from excel?

    ....

    Set the number format to something other than Scientific *OR* General. If
    you use the General number format, you'll get numbers in scientific notation
    when columns aren't wide enough to display in normal format. This is no
    different from many other numeric applications that use a 'general' format
    by default to display floating point reals.

    >how do i import it into a database without having it cough?


    Again, set the number format correctly, and you shouldn't have a problem. If
    you do in some database, then the problem is in the *DATABASE*, not Excel,
    so further bitching & moaning in this newsgroup would be OT.



  4. #4
    aaron.kempf@gmail.com
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    Re: scientific notation

    i dont believe that works correctly.

    sorry.

    i want microsoft to fix it.


  5. #5
    Jordon
    Guest

    Re: scientific notation

    <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote
    > i dont believe that works correctly.
    >
    > sorry.
    >
    > i want microsoft to fix it.


    And I want to win the Lotto



  6. #6
    aaron.kempf@gmail.com
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    Re: scientific notation

    yeah. well.. i'm not the one that is selling crappy software


  7. #7
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: scientific notation

    <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote...
    >yeah. well.. i'm not the one that is selling crappy software


    No, you're the one who refuses to accept how the software works and refuses
    to understant that it works the same way nearly all numeric software does
    when representing floating point numbers of arbitrary magnitude as text on
    output when you the user haven't bothered to specify your desired number
    format.

    For some, ignorance is bliss. For you it's just a way of life.



  8. #8
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: scientific notation

    <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote...
    >i dont believe that works correctly.


    You can believe the world is flat, the universe is centered on the Earth,
    you're not obtuse, and other demonstrably false propositions and it won't
    make them true.

    FORMAT CELLS CONTAINING NUMBERS TO ENSURE THEY DISPLAY THE WAY YOU WANT.
    *YOUR* failure to do so is *YOUR* problem alone, and there's squat all
    Microsoft needs to fix (other than perhaps offering to pay for you to have a
    lobotomy and/or one-way transit to a deserted island in the Indian Ocean).

    >i want microsoft to fix it.


    What's to fix? This is *DOCUMENTED* functionality, *AND* it's familiar to
    *ANYONE* who's used *ANY* spreadsheet under MS/PC-DOS or Windows. Also
    familiar to anyone who's programmed in any scripting language including VBA
    (e.g., enter the following statements in the VBE Immediate window

    ? (1234# * 5678#) ^ 9#

    ? (12# * 34#) ^ 5#

    ). Anyone who knows C's printf format strings knows the difference between
    %e (scientific), %f ('normal') and %g ('general') floating point number
    formats. It's also part of FORTRAN 95,

    http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Re...HTM#HDRH000062

    That you don't understand this concept is obvious, but just because you're
    unwilling or unable to grasp this doesn't mean there's anything for
    Microsoft to fix.

    And to repeat, if numeric data is being pulled into some DBMS in scientific
    format, doesn't the DBMS provide facilities to format those numbers some
    other way? Or are you saying the *DBMS* is importing numeric data in
    scientific format as text? Either way, it ain't Excel causing the problem.



  9. #9
    Bill Kuunders
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    Re: scientific notation

    Whow

    GO YOU, Harlan......

    See what Aaron has got to say to THAT.
    ( :> ))
    --
    Greetings from New Zealand
    Bill K

    "Harlan Grove" <hrlngrv@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:uqqF8WYbFHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > <aaron.kempf@gmail.com> wrote...
    >>i dont believe that works correctly.

    >
    > You can believe the world is flat, the universe is centered on the Earth,
    > you're not obtuse, and other demonstrably false propositions and it won't
    > make them true.
    >
    > FORMAT CELLS CONTAINING NUMBERS TO ENSURE THEY DISPLAY THE WAY YOU WANT.
    > *YOUR* failure to do so is *YOUR* problem alone, and there's squat all
    > Microsoft needs to fix (other than perhaps offering to pay for you to have
    > a
    > lobotomy and/or one-way transit to a deserted island in the Indian Ocean).
    >
    >>i want microsoft to fix it.

    >
    > What's to fix? This is *DOCUMENTED* functionality, *AND* it's familiar to
    > *ANYONE* who's used *ANY* spreadsheet under MS/PC-DOS or Windows. Also
    > familiar to anyone who's programmed in any scripting language including
    > VBA
    > (e.g., enter the following statements in the VBE Immediate window
    >
    > ? (1234# * 5678#) ^ 9#
    >
    > ? (12# * 34#) ^ 5#
    >
    > ). Anyone who knows C's printf format strings knows the difference between
    > %e (scientific), %f ('normal') and %g ('general') floating point number
    > formats. It's also part of FORTRAN 95,
    >
    > http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Re...HTM#HDRH000062
    >
    > That you don't understand this concept is obvious, but just because you're
    > unwilling or unable to grasp this doesn't mean there's anything for
    > Microsoft to fix.
    >
    > And to repeat, if numeric data is being pulled into some DBMS in
    > scientific
    > format, doesn't the DBMS provide facilities to format those numbers some
    > other way? Or are you saying the *DBMS* is importing numeric data in
    > scientific format as text? Either way, it ain't Excel causing the problem.
    >
    >




  10. #10
    Harlan Grove
    Guest

    Re: scientific notation

    Why chance reigniting a thread like this?


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