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Formula syntax error - chinese and gibberish

  1. #1
    Joshua Fandango
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    Formula syntax error - chinese and gibberish

    Hi guys,

    Firstly my thanks go out to those who sort out the problems of us minions. I've
    learnt so much from these posts that I never thought possible - keep up the
    good work guys...

    I have a pretty good knowledge of Excel - years of experience with different
    releases, but have never come across this situation before.
    I have a a John Walkenbach termed 'megaformula' that contains ISERR, IF,
    SEARCH, AND, OR, ISNA, VLOOKUP, LEFT & MID functions. Having got it to work I
    opted to use copy and paste to automate it's use in a report, rather than mess
    around with converting to the RC reference required by VBA.

    Somehow the formula appears corrupted as the initial IF and some of the end of
    the formula has vanished since running the procedure. It also contains a
    couple of chinese (I can only assume) characters, which change to other chinese
    characters when the cell it's contained in is activated, and some other symbols
    which make the formula look like nonsense.

    It doesn't appear that this is a problem as the formula still works correctly
    when the procedure is run - which seems quite bizzare to me!

    I'm running Excel 2000 (SP3) from Office 2000 on Windows NT 4. Using a Pentium
    2 class PC with 96 meg of memory on a LAN.
    Aside from telling my manager I need an updated computer does anyone have any
    comments on just what is going on here?

    Cheers,
    JF.

  2. #2
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: Formula syntax error - chinese and gibberish

    You may want to post the formula (and cell address that contains it) to see if
    anyone else can replicate your problem.

    Joshua Fandango wrote:
    >
    > Hi guys,
    >
    > Firstly my thanks go out to those who sort out the problems of us minions. I've
    > learnt so much from these posts that I never thought possible - keep up the
    > good work guys...
    >
    > I have a pretty good knowledge of Excel - years of experience with different
    > releases, but have never come across this situation before.
    > I have a a John Walkenbach termed 'megaformula' that contains ISERR, IF,
    > SEARCH, AND, OR, ISNA, VLOOKUP, LEFT & MID functions. Having got it to work I
    > opted to use copy and paste to automate it's use in a report, rather than mess
    > around with converting to the RC reference required by VBA.
    >
    > Somehow the formula appears corrupted as the initial IF and some of the end of
    > the formula has vanished since running the procedure. It also contains a
    > couple of chinese (I can only assume) characters, which change to other chinese
    > characters when the cell it's contained in is activated, and some other symbols
    > which make the formula look like nonsense.
    >
    > It doesn't appear that this is a problem as the formula still works correctly
    > when the procedure is run - which seems quite bizzare to me!
    >
    > I'm running Excel 2000 (SP3) from Office 2000 on Windows NT 4. Using a Pentium
    > 2 class PC with 96 meg of memory on a LAN.
    > Aside from telling my manager I need an updated computer does anyone have any
    > comments on just what is going on here?
    >
    > Cheers,
    > JF.


    --

    Dave Peterson

  3. #3
    Joshua Fandango
    Guest

    Re: Formula syntax error - chinese and gibberish

    Apologies for the delay - extended weekend cos of some bloke a while
    ago.....

    Here follows my fractured formula:

    =ISERR(IF(SEARCH("missing",H2,1)>0,"Ian Strachan to provide detail to
    APAK"))‡OR(H2="Over Group Credit Limit ",H2="Over Group Credit
    Limit")D"Capital to Resubmit" LEFT(H2,7)="Invalid" "Dealer needs to be
    set up on APAK system" ISNA(IF(VLOOKUP(MID(A2,2,4),'Z:\TRADE
    FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    Queries\UPDATE LOOKUP
    TABLES.xls'!UTILISATION_LOOKUP,2,0)="STOP","Dealer on stop per
    utilisation report",VLOOKUP(C2,'Z:\TRADE FINANCE\Shared Area\Within
    Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence Queries\[UPDATE LOOKUP
    TABLES.xls]INVOICES'!$C$1:$I$2000,7,0)))VLOOKUP(C2,'Z:\TRADE
    FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    Queries\[UPDATE LOOKUP
    TABLES.xls]INVOICES'!$C$1:$I$2000,7,0)VLOOKUP(MID(A2,2,4),'Z:\TRADE
    FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    Queries\UPDATE LOOKUP TABLES.xls'!UTILISATION_LOOKUP,2,0)="STOP"
    "Dealer on stop per utilisation report" C2 Z:\TRADE FINANCE\Shared
    Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence Queries\[UPDATE
    LOOKUP TABLES.xls]

    I have no idea how this can still work. Sadly the aforementioned
    chinese symbols don't copy, but there is a spurious 'D' and a few ''s
    where they (sometimes) appear.

    The formula resides in Sheet2 Cell I2 of my update workbook and is
    pasted to cell I2 in my report.

    It may be worth pointing out here that I'm not after a solution to
    make the formula complete again - although I have actually forgotten
    what the rest of it was, and didn't save it (silly boy) - rather I'm
    just curious to what may have caused this situation to arise.

    Still confused,
    JF.


    Dave Peterson <ec35720@netscapeXSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<42441F8A.A25869F0@netscapeXSPAM.com>...
    > You may want to post the formula (and cell address that contains it) to see if
    > anyone else can replicate your problem.
    >
    > Joshua Fandango wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi guys,
    > >
    > > Firstly my thanks go out to those who sort out the problems of us minions. I've
    > > learnt so much from these posts that I never thought possible - keep up the
    > > good work guys...
    > >
    > > I have a pretty good knowledge of Excel - years of experience with different
    > > releases, but have never come across this situation before.
    > > I have a a John Walkenbach termed 'megaformula' that contains ISERR, IF,
    > > SEARCH, AND, OR, ISNA, VLOOKUP, LEFT & MID functions. Having got it to work I
    > > opted to use copy and paste to automate it's use in a report, rather than mess
    > > around with converting to the RC reference required by VBA.
    > >
    > > Somehow the formula appears corrupted as the initial IF and some of the end of
    > > the formula has vanished since running the procedure. It also contains a
    > > couple of chinese (I can only assume) characters, which change to other chinese
    > > characters when the cell it's contained in is activated, and some other symbols
    > > which make the formula look like nonsense.
    > >
    > > It doesn't appear that this is a problem as the formula still works correctly
    > > when the procedure is run - which seems quite bizzare to me!
    > >
    > > I'm running Excel 2000 (SP3) from Office 2000 on Windows NT 4. Using a Pentium
    > > 2 class PC with 96 meg of memory on a LAN.
    > > Aside from telling my manager I need an updated computer does anyone have any
    > > comments on just what is going on here?
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > > JF.


  4. #4
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Formula syntax error - chinese and gibberish

    I've seen the box characters show up. For me, they're usually cause by an
    alt-enter in the formula--to make the formula split lines at nicer spots. It
    make reviewing the formula a little easier.

    I don't have a guess why you got this problem, but next time it happens, you can
    put an apostrophe in front of the formula ('=iserr(...)) to make it text.

    Then you could use Chip Pearson's CellView addin that will show you want each
    character is:
    http://www.cpearson.com/excel/CellView.htm

    Joshua Fandango wrote:
    >
    > Apologies for the delay - extended weekend cos of some bloke a while
    > ago.....
    >
    > Here follows my fractured formula:
    >
    > =ISERR(IF(SEARCH("missing",H2,1)>0,"Ian Strachan to provide detail to
    > APAK"))‡OR(H2="Over Group Credit Limit ",H2="Over Group Credit
    > Limit")D"Capital to Resubmit" LEFT(H2,7)="Invalid" "Dealer needs to be
    > set up on APAK system" ISNA(IF(VLOOKUP(MID(A2,2,4),'Z:\TRADE
    > FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    > Queries\UPDATE LOOKUP
    > TABLES.xls'!UTILISATION_LOOKUP,2,0)="STOP","Dealer on stop per
    > utilisation report",VLOOKUP(C2,'Z:\TRADE FINANCE\Shared Area\Within
    > Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence Queries\[UPDATE LOOKUP
    > TABLES.xls]INVOICES'!$C$1:$I$2000,7,0)))VLOOKUP(C2,'Z:\TRADE
    > FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    > Queries\[UPDATE LOOKUP
    > TABLES.xls]INVOICES'!$C$1:$I$2000,7,0)VLOOKUP(MID(A2,2,4),'Z:\TRADE
    > FINANCE\Shared Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence
    > Queries\UPDATE LOOKUP TABLES.xls'!UTILISATION_LOOKUP,2,0)="STOP"
    > "Dealer on stop per utilisation report" C2 Z:\TRADE FINANCE\Shared
    > Area\Within Trade Finance\SUSPENCE ACCOUNT\Suspence Queries\[UPDATE
    > LOOKUP TABLES.xls]
    >
    > I have no idea how this can still work. Sadly the aforementioned
    > chinese symbols don't copy, but there is a spurious 'D' and a few ''s
    > where they (sometimes) appear.
    >
    > The formula resides in Sheet2 Cell I2 of my update workbook and is
    > pasted to cell I2 in my report.
    >
    > It may be worth pointing out here that I'm not after a solution to
    > make the formula complete again - although I have actually forgotten
    > what the rest of it was, and didn't save it (silly boy) - rather I'm
    > just curious to what may have caused this situation to arise.
    >
    > Still confused,
    > JF.
    >
    > Dave Peterson <ec35720@netscapeXSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<42441F8A.A25869F0@netscapeXSPAM.com>...
    > > You may want to post the formula (and cell address that contains it) to see if
    > > anyone else can replicate your problem.
    > >
    > > Joshua Fandango wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hi guys,
    > > >
    > > > Firstly my thanks go out to those who sort out the problems of us minions. I've
    > > > learnt so much from these posts that I never thought possible - keep up the
    > > > good work guys...
    > > >
    > > > I have a pretty good knowledge of Excel - years of experience with different
    > > > releases, but have never come across this situation before.
    > > > I have a a John Walkenbach termed 'megaformula' that contains ISERR, IF,
    > > > SEARCH, AND, OR, ISNA, VLOOKUP, LEFT & MID functions. Having got it to work I
    > > > opted to use copy and paste to automate it's use in a report, rather than mess
    > > > around with converting to the RC reference required by VBA.
    > > >
    > > > Somehow the formula appears corrupted as the initial IF and some of the end of
    > > > the formula has vanished since running the procedure. It also contains a
    > > > couple of chinese (I can only assume) characters, which change to other chinese
    > > > characters when the cell it's contained in is activated, and some other symbols
    > > > which make the formula look like nonsense.
    > > >
    > > > It doesn't appear that this is a problem as the formula still works correctly
    > > > when the procedure is run - which seems quite bizzare to me!
    > > >
    > > > I'm running Excel 2000 (SP3) from Office 2000 on Windows NT 4. Using a Pentium
    > > > 2 class PC with 96 meg of memory on a LAN.
    > > > Aside from telling my manager I need an updated computer does anyone have any
    > > > comments on just what is going on here?
    > > >
    > > > Cheers,
    > > > JF.


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    Dave Peterson

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