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    Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Hi all,

    Working on a model that was built by someone else and I am trying to make some changes.

    When I first went to change a row of cells I couldn't even add in parenthesis without excel returning 0. Odd. I know my syntax is correct. So I assumed there was some strange number formatting occurring so I changed it to basic accounting style. But after dragging my new formula only about half the cells in my row are returning the correct values, while half are returning 0.

    I'll list what I consider to be possible wrinkles:

    -The formula is attempting to convert to a negative number...formula reads =-BS!L146*Interest_Rate/12

    -I am now calling on a named cell opposed to a hardcoded number (although problem persists with a hardcoded number)


    A final note is that the cells returning the correct numbers fail and return 0 if I add in parenthesis that shouldn't be changing the formula at all.

    Thanks! I am stumped.

    UPDATE: The cells that were working stop working if I simply click in the formula bar and then click out without changing anything. After that they return 0 again.
    Last edited by Doctor Dre; 06-15-2015 at 10:24 AM.

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Prob best post some example (and non sensitive) data
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    Ensure you describe your problem clearly, I have little time available to solve these problems and do not appreciate numerous changes to them.

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    I copied the text from Glenn Kennedy (thanks for that, Glenn)

    Hi there. Try this aray formula. They're a little different from ordinary formulas in that they MUST be confirmed by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to activate the array, not just ENTER.

    You will know the array is active when you see curly braces { } appear around the outside of your formula. If you do not CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER you will get an error message or an incorrect answer. Press F2 on that cell and try again.

    Don't type the curly braces yourself - it won't work...
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    oeldere... You may be losing the plot... Have you posted in the correct thread (Post No 3)...
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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Okay I will provide additional information.

    I am attempting to calculate an interest expense, this takes 3 different inputs. The first input comes from a separate worksheet (total notes payable calculated with a subtotal function), this is then multiplied by my named cell "Interest_Rate" and divided by 12. I then slapped a negative sign in front. This formula is then dragged across about 16 time periods.

    It would appear all cells work correctly. But if I attempt to sum them, the summation equals 0. Also, as mentioned earlier clicking in the formula bar and then clicking out changes the number to 0.

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    Nope. Clear as mud!!

    Please attach a sample workbook. Make sure there is enough data to demonstrate your need. Make sure your desired results are shown, mock them up manually if necessary. Remember to remove ALL confidential information first!!!

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Glenn,

    Reading this part, I decided I should post it.

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Cells that are being tricky are in worksheet P&L. The problem stopped after I hardcoded the notes payable numbers, so I backed that up and let them continue puling from above which includes a PPMT function. Go click on the formula bar for the interest expense cells and then off, and they should turn to 0.
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    You have created a circuar reference in BS F144 that is causing the problem. The offending formula:

    =(F66-E66)+(PPMT(Interest_Rate/12,COUNTA(E144:F144),60,E144))

    contains a reference to itself. I don't know what it should be... hopefully you do!!!!

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Derp. Oh yes I know exactly what it should be. Thank you for the help.

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    Re: Excel returning zeros (it shouldn't be)

    Glad to have helped! Also, glad it worked - as I didn't want to have to learn about PPMTs....

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