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    Hi all!

    I'm having problem in performing bootstrapping with excel, WITHOUT downloading extensions of the program.

    My data are the folowinf ones:
    I have one insect community made of 3 species, with different abundances:

    species A --> 13 insects
    species B --> 53 insects
    species C --> 20 insects

    TOT number of insects in the community: 86

    From this community I have to drawn 1000 random samples, and the formula would be:

    =INDEX(community;ROWS(community)*RAND()+1;COLUMNS(community)*RAND()+1)

    with "community" as my data (13,53,20)

    That works well, BUT my problem is that tha sample I have to take don't have to have 86 total insects, but less (50), so I need a random SAMPLE from the above community, for istance a good output would be:

    species A --> 35 insects
    species B --> 2 insects
    species C --> 13 insects

    TOT insects: 50

    and this would be repeated randomly 1000 times

    Do you have any idea how to put the total number of insect constraint?
    Hope my headhache will be finally over!!!!!!

    Thanks guys!!

    Daniele
    Last edited by VBA Noob; 12-02-2007 at 05:50 AM.

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    I think you are trying to:
    Choose a random number of Species A, a random number of Species B and a random number of Species C.
    I'm reading that A+B+C is constrained to be 50.

    And do this 1000 times.

    If that is what is needed, you could

    Put "Tot" in E1 and 50 in K2.
    This is where you input the total number of insects required.

    in E2,
    =INT(RAND()*($K$2-2))+1

    in F2,
    =INT(RAND()*($K$2-$E2))+1

    in G2
    =$K$2-E2-F2

    This randomly chooses three numbers, E2:G2, whose sum is $K$2. It has a tendency to choose E2 larger than the others, so to correct for that by;
    In I2, we choose one of the six ways to reorder 3 numbers.
    In I2,
    =INT(RAND()*6)+1

    In A2, the number of species A,
    =CHOOSE(I2,E2,E2,F2,F2,G2,G2)

    in B2, the number of species B,
    =CHOOSE(I2,F2,G2,E2,G2,E2,F2)

    in C2, the number of species C,
    =CHOOSE(I2,G2,F2,G2,E2,F2,E2)

    Select A2:I1001 and fill down.
    Last edited by mikerickson; 12-02-2007 at 07:26 AM.

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    Hi mikerickson!!

    Good things:
    thanks so much for your answer, you're a master!!


    Bad things:
    I made a mistake in my first message... what I need is that if my community is:

    species A --> 13 insects
    species B --> 53 insects
    species C --> 20 insects

    TOT number of insects in the community: 86

    my 1000 random sample have to take randomly 50 insects from this pool, so that I can't take 35 insects from species A because I only have 13 of these (that's my mistake in the previous msg )). In this way, each species is constrained by ITS number (13 for A, 53 for B and 20 for C), and the total sample size has to be 50. Example:

    species A --> 5 insects
    species B --> 34 insects
    species C --> 11 insects

    TOT number of insects in the random sample: 50

    Hoping this is not a big problem for Excel....

    sorry for my previous msg!!

    Daniele

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    Hello Daniele

    In the attached workbook I've provided one way I think you can do this - the random population is made to sum to 50 by setting the number of Species B to equal 50 less the sum of species A & C. I have used RANDBETWEEN rather than RAND to make my formulas look prettier - RANDBETWEEN is from the Analsysis Toolpak and you would need to ensure this has been referenced through Tools>Add-Ins (it ships with Excel, in most cases).

    Richard
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    I think this will do it.

    Put the number of species A in A1, species B in B1, species C in C1.

    From your figures that would be A1=13, B1=53, C1=20

    Leave D1 blank.

    Put the total sample size you want in E1. E1 = 50

    Run this macro and 1000 random choices will be made and counted.
    After the macro is run, G1:I100 will show the totals for each species per choice.

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    I hope this helps.
    Last edited by mikerickson; 12-02-2007 at 10:13 AM.

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    well....thanks all guys!!! I think this forum is a sort of nest of large-brained genius.....

    Bye!!
    Daniele

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