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    Hi Guys,
    I have two different assumptions relating price and demand.
    From here I want to have a drop down menu on price to see how the demand is moving towards the assumption.
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    I tried but failed... Which is the correct formula to apply?
    Thanks

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    This looks like something that Goal Seek could help you with. Have a look here: https://support.office.com/en-gb/art...ad=GB&fromAR=1
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    This looks like something that Goal Seek could help you with. Have a look here: https://support.office.com/en-gb/art...ad=GB&fromAR=1
    Thanks for your reply. Already tried Goal Seek to set up the formula, but what I am really looking for is a proper working formula for my problem.
    Any hint?
    Thanks

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    How do you want it to work? You need to give us some specific outcomes so that we can construct a formula that will do what you want. What are the rules? What is the logic behind the calculations?

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    I have price and demand at the beginning and the end of the curve (A-B). What I want to calculate is the demand on any point between A and B given the price (through a drop down menu).
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Worked examples, please.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    Worked examples, please.
    I have two assumptions representing price and demand at the beginning and the end of the curve (A-B) as in the table below:
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    I am looking for the formula to obtain this curve:
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    What I want to calculate is the demand on any point between A and B given the price:
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    Thanks for your help

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Happy to help, but mathematically challenged!!!

    To be able to create a formula for you, we need to know the logic behind the curve you have plotted - what is the equation? If it were a straight line, of course it would be easy, even for me!

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Thanks for your reply!
    My need is to understand which is the best mathematical formula to distribute those values between A and B...
    I hope is a common business problem...
    Any hint?
    Thanks
    Last edited by AliGW; 07-28-2017 at 04:58 AM. Reason: Unnecessary quotation removed.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    No, no hint - sorry. I think I've been clear about how I can help, but without knowing the maths behind it, I can't. Someone else may understand it better.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Hi,

    I've assumed this is a logarithmic curve plotting the two extremes of Demand/Price as 45000;1 & 1;961 (the 961 taken from your chart)

    Plot the points as an xy scatter chart and add the trendline and trendline equation. Then use the equation in your table.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    No, no hint - sorry. I think I've been clear about how I can help, but without knowing the maths behind it, I can't. Someone else may understand it better.
    Thanks for your support!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Buttrey View Post
    See attached.
    I set up an excel for you but I see the Attachments button blank... How do I upload excel files as you just did?
    Meanwhile I upload you an example of what I am looking for (G3).
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    Thanks
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Unfortunately the attachment icon doesn't work at the moment, so to attach an Excel file you have to do the following: just before posting, scroll down to Go Advanced and then scroll down to Manage Attachments. Now follow the instructions at the top of that screen.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Great, you should find the file attached.
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    B
    C
    D
    E
    F
    G
    H
    1
    Ass1
    Ass2
    2
    Demand
    45,000
    1,000
    Price
    1,400
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    Price
    1
    1,000
    Demand
    218
    G3: =EXP($B$6 * G2 + $C$6)
    4
    5
    m
    b
    6
    -0.00381047
    10.7182282
    B6:C6: {=LINEST(LN(C2:D2), C3:D3)}
    7
    8
    9
    Price Demand
    10
    1
    45,000
    45000
    D10: =EXP($B$6 * B10 + $C$6)
    11
    500
    6721
    12
    800
    2143
    13
    1,000
    1,000
    1000
    14
    1,200
    467
    15
    1,400
    218
    16
    1,500
    149
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Dear shg,
    It looks like you solved my problem, but I am wondering how you calculated b and what is the meaning of m and b.
    Many thanks for your help!

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    It's a regression to extract the parameters of the exponential trendline that appears in the chart:

    demand = exp(m * price + b)

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    See attached.

    Note however that with the constraint you've set of a demand/price of 1000;1000, this results in negative demand above a price of 1000.

    You may need to change the D2 and/or the D3 values, noting the change in the equation and adjusting the constant in the column C formulae.
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Thanks, why can't I edit the array? Why do I see the same formula and 2 different values?

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    It's an array formula.

    Select both cells, paste the formula in the formula bar sans curly braces, press and hold the Ctrl and Shift keys, then press Enter.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Looks like if I test shg formula adding other assumptions it isn't working.
    What I expect is to have the curve at the exact input (assumptions) point where available.
    Any hint of why?
    Thanks
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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    What makes you think you can fit any random set of made-up numbers with a smooth mathematical function?
    Last edited by shg; 07-28-2017 at 12:28 PM.

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    Re: Price Demand Curve

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiccoLisoFolmichino View Post
    Looks like if I test shg formula adding other assumptions it isn't working.
    What I expect is to have the curve at the exact input (assumptions) point where available.
    Any hint of why?
    Thanks
    Would you explain exactly the purpose of this exercise and explain what you are trying to achieve and demonstrate.

    Seems to me you have two choices.
    1. Use some known price/demand points and then decide whether to use a 'least squares' method to plot a linear relationship curve, or some other exponential/logarithmic relationship in order to derive a formula that will allow you to predict price/demand points outside of the known points.

    2. Derive a complex formula for your whole population of points, using a calculus of differences process, which gives you an arithmetically consistent formula which satisfies all your points.

    From your statement above you may be looking for #2

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