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    Binary Options - Need formula to recoup loss with profit

    Hello,

    I've been trading with binary options. I use the martingale strategy, although it is quite different to use when trading options because the payout is based on a set percentage.

    For example:
    I bet $2, the option trades with an 80% return, profit of $1.60 - This is an easy formula to do.

    Here's where I am stuck. Say I lose this trade. My next trade will need to recoup my $2 loss. Is it possible for excel to calculate what dollar amount I need to recoup this $2 loss (Or as close as possible) with an 80% return.

    In this case, it would be $3 x 80% = $2.40 profit. The profit here recoups my $2 loss, and Im 0.40 cents ahead. But if I lost this $3 trade, what's the next dollar amount that I need to recoup the $2 + $3 = $5 loss, and so on.

    Im not sure how to create the formula required for this. I would like excel to identify at least 10 trades consecutively, showing amounts needed for my next trade to breakeven. This way I won't need to manually calculate it every time. And excel can do the math for me, and I will be ready to place my next trade.

    I hope this is clear enough.

    Your help is greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,

    G613
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    Re: Need HELP to create formula for excel

    G,

    so the next trade size is basically the last trade size / 80%, correct? And you keep adding the losses for each trade?

    See attached.

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    Re: Need HELP to create formula for excel

    I went with something like the attached to track the whole sequence:
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    Re: Need HELP to create formula for excel

    Thanks Amit! It's basically what Im looking for. I can certainly work with this, tweak it a bit. Thanks for your help

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    Re: Need HELP to create formula for excel

    Quote Originally Posted by cantosh View Post
    I went with something like the attached to track the whole sequence:
    Awesome! This helps too! Thanks.

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    Re: Need HELP to create formula for excel

    G613, pretty much everyone who comes here, wants help with a formula

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    Re: Binary Options - Need formula to recoup loss with profit

    Hey guys..

    Sorry to bug you once more, but I'm stumped again.


    I'm having trouble figuring out how to recoup my loss, while profiting a consistent dollar amount per trade. Assuming I lost 3 trades in a row, what's the next trade value to recoup the loses but remaining profitable.

    I wish I can show you my excel sheet but for whatever reason, I cannot attach it. When I click on the "paperclip" for attachments, nothing is working. Any tips on this?

    To give you an idea, on the left side of my excel sheet I have my breakeven numbers. Next column, I have a box to input a dollar amount so that my next trade value be a profit by the indicated dollar value.

    To clarify - For example: If I am trading an option with 80% payout, say I lose my initial trade of $5. My next trade needs to be at least $6.27 (x80% = $5.016) to recoup the $5 loss. I would like to make a $2 profit on my next trade (or any trades thereafter) while recouping my loss. Therefore, I would need $8.75 to make back my $5 and profit 2$. The important thing to consider is the percentage payout of the option.



    Thanks for your help on this.

    Cheers,

    G

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    Re: Binary Options - Need formula to recoup loss with profit

    So isn't the arithmetic the same as before but you just need to account for your new profit.

    Bet (or investment) = (total losses to date + your predetermined profit) / 0.8


    By the way I've had trouble with the paper clip too but have found the manage attachments button (scroll down after pressing go advanced)works for me at the moment.
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    Re: Binary Options - Need formula to recoup loss with profit

    A
    B
    C
    D
    E
    1
    Return
    Min Bet
    2
    80%
    $5.00
    3
    Bank
    Bet
    Result
    4
    $100.00
    $5.00
    L
    B4 and down: =MIN(A4, MAX(($A$4 - A4) / $A$2, $B$2))
    5
    $95.00
    $6.25
    L
    C4 and down: =IF(B4 = 0, "", IF(RAND() > 0.5, "W","L"))
    6
    $88.75
    $14.06
    W
    A5 and down: =A4 + B4 * IF(C4="W", $A$2, -1)
    7
    $100.00
    $5.00
    L
    8
    $95.00
    $6.25
    W
    9
    $100.00
    $5.00
    L
    10
    $95.00
    $6.25
    L
    11
    $88.75
    $14.06
    W
    12
    $100.00
    $5.00
    L
    13
    $95.00
    $6.25
    L
    14
    $88.75
    $14.06
    L
    15
    $74.69
    $31.64
    L
    16
    $43.05
    $43.05
    W
    17
    $77.48
    $28.14
    L
    18
    $49.34
    $49.34
    L
    19
    $0.00
    $0.00


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    Re: Binary Options - Need formula to recoup loss with profit

    Here's another version of my effort, updated to include the $2 return should the gamble pay off. I also fixed a formula error I missed the first time (apologies). SHG's link is a worthwhile read, though. I would think an 80% return renders this strategy... risky, to say the least.
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