Hey sixthsense, thanks for the suggestions,just trying to find the least troublesome solutions for the end users. i've got more questions.
any idea why vlookup can sometimes update from a closed workbook but sometimes it cant? i.e. when i make changes to the lookup_value, it shows a #NA on the resultant cell, but i can just revert this change and get back the result. but sometimes it shows a #ref, and there's no reverting the situation. both situations are with the source workbook closed.
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