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    Tiered prorata pricing

    Hello All,


    I am a noob in Excel and need help. I am a freelance trainer and need to send pricing based on number of participants. I need a calculator designed which will address the following.

    Program A EQ
    Cost per candidate 1000
    Minimum Candidates 50
    Expected Participants 51
    Tiered Pricing
    Service Tax 12.50%
    Total Cost


    Minimum Candidates 50: This is a non editable field

    Tiered Pricing: This is a entry field which will be blank for the client to enter a number between 51-75. The pricing for the 75th participant will be 800. So a prorata from the 51st participant to the 75th participant should fall within the 200 bracket. So on and so forth.

    The tiers are as follow.
    1-50: 1000
    51-75: 800 (Keeping in mind the distribution of 200 on the number of participants prorate basis)
    76-100:600 (Keeping in mind the distribution of 200 on the number of participants prorate basis)
    101-150: 400 same as above
    151-200: 200

    Expected Participants: This is a entry field which will be blank for the client to enter any number
    Service Tax: This is fixed.
    Total Cost: Sum of Service Tax and Tiered Pricing

    Kindly help me address this issue. Will be highly obliged........ Thanks in advance

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    I'm a little confused on a few points...

    1) If there is a minimum of 50 candidates needed, why have a price per candidate at all? Why not just have a base fee of 50000, then every subsequent participant be applied to a tier?
    2) Do the tiers take into account the minimum amount of candidates? That is if there are 80 participants, 50 of which fall into the minimum, does that mean there are 30 that fall into "tier 1" (1000), or does that fall into "tier 3" (600)?

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Thanks for your reply and query.

    Here is how I envision the calculator. I intend to send this calculator attached to the business proposal so that the client get a sense of pay for what you use services. My clients requirement for training can range from 10-300+.

    1) If there is a minimum of 50 candidates needed, why have a price per candidate at all? Why not just have a base fee of 50000, then every subsequent participant be applied to a tier? - I am fine with a base of 50000 for 50 participants. I thought if it could reflect on the calculator wherein even if the client enters a value below 50, the cost remains 50000 only.

    2) Do the tiers take into account the minimum amount of candidates? That is if there are 80 participants, 50 of which fall into the minimum, does that mean there are 30 that fall into "tier 1" (1000), or does that fall into "tier 3" (600)? ---- No, the tiers do not take into account the minimum no of participants. However, for candidates within the bracket of 51 - 75, the prices will range between 200 on a prorata basis (1000 all the way down to 800 for the 75th candidate).

    The tiers are as follows:
    1-50: 1000
    51-75: 800 (Cummulative or prorata basis to fall within 200 and not less than 800 for the 75th candidate.

    So, for 75 participants, the fee will be 50000 (for the 1st 50) plus 2000 (800*25). The discounted amount of 5000. However, this value will change if it is for 74, 73,72, 71 etc....

    Now from the 76th participant to the 100th participant range the bracket will be 600. So for the 100th participant, the pricing will be 50000 + 20000 + 15000 = 85000

    So on and so forth. All the way for the ranges mentioned below
    1-50: 1000
    51-75: 800
    76-100:600
    101-150: 400
    151-200: 200

    After 200 participants, the fee will be the same. The trick here is the fee pricing for between the ranges like 51-74, 76-99, 101-124 etc....
    Hope this clarifies..... I assume this should not be difficult for gurus in this forum... This is a great place.... Thanks again.

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Here's my understanding:

    o Base price for a seminar is $50K for 1 to 50 participants.

    o For the next 50 participants, each costs $8 less than the last, down to $600 for the 100th participant.

    o For the next 100 participants, each costs $4 less than the last, down to $200 for the 200th participant.

    o Beyond that, prices remain flat at $200 each.

    So given that,

    Row\Col
    B
    C
    D
    E
    F
    G
    H
    I
    2
    Min
    Price Ea
    N
    Price
    3
    $ 50,000
    $ 1,000
    10
    $ 50,000
    H3: =MAX($B$3, $C$3 * N + SUMPRODUCT((N > $B$6:$B$9) * ((N - $B$6:$B$9) + (N - $B$6:$B$9)^2) * $D$6:$D$9/2))
    4
    50
    $ 50,000
    5
    Tier
    Change
    Delta
    51
    $ 50,992
    6
    0
    $ 0
    $ 0
    D6: =C6-N(C5)
    52
    $ 51,976
    7
    50
    $ (8)
    $ (8)
    53
    $ 52,952
    8
    100
    $ (4)
    $ 4
    54
    $ 53,920
    9
    200
    $ 0
    $ 4
    55
    $ 54,880
    10
    60
    $ 59,560
    11
    65
    $ 64,040
    12
    70
    $ 68,320
    13
    75
    $ 72,400
    14
    80
    $ 76,280
    15
    85
    $ 79,960
    16
    90
    $ 83,440
    17
    95
    $ 86,720
    18
    100
    $ 89,800
    19
    110
    $ 95,580
    20
    120
    $ 100,960
    21
    130
    $ 105,940
    22
    140
    $ 110,520
    23
    150
    $ 114,700
    24
    160
    $ 118,480
    25
    170
    $ 121,860
    26
    180
    $ 124,840
    27
    190
    $ 127,420
    28
    200
    $ 129,600
    29
    210
    $ 131,600
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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Shg,

    I appreciate your initiative to help me with my query.

    However, for candidates within the bracket of 51 - 75, the prices will range between 200 on a prorata basis (1000 all the way down to 800 for the 75th candidate).

    The tiers are as follows:
    1-50: 1000
    51-75: 800 (Cummulative or prorata basis to fall within 200 and not less than 800 for the 75th candidate.

    So, for 75 participants, the fee will be 50000 (for the 1st 50) plus 20000 (800*25). The discounted amount of 5000. However, this value will change if it is for 74, 73,72, 71 etc....

    Now from the 76th participant to the 100th participant range the bracket will be 600. So for the 100th participant, the pricing will be 50000 + 20000 + 15000 (600*25)= 85000

    So on and so forth. All the way for the ranges mentioned below
    1-50: 1000
    51-75: 800
    76-100:600
    101-150: 400
    151-200: 200

    After 200 participants, the fee will be the same. The trick here is the fee pricing for between the ranges like 51-74, 76-99, 101-124 etc....
    Hope this clarifies..... I assume this should not be difficult for gurus in this forum... This is a great place.... Thanks again.

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Hello? Post #3?

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Do you disagree with the pricing in post #3, and if so, which and why?

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Thanks for your reply......

    1-50 = 50000
    for 75 candidates, the fee will be 50000+20000 ( this will change for the range between 71-74, the 75th candidate should be charged at 80000. In other words this will be a tier as well)
    In your calculation, it shows 72400.

    Going by my requirement, for 100 candidates, the pricing will be 95000 (50000+20000+15000). Hence 100 candidates will be costing 95000. The range between 76-99 will be the determining factor for this..

    Hope this helps...

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Sorry....
    Going by my requirement, for 100 candidates, the pricing will be 95000 (50000+20000+15000). Hence 100 candidates will be costing 85000. The range between 76-99 will be the determining factor for this..

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Sorry....
    Going by my requirement, for 100 candidates, the pricing will be 95000 (50000+20000+15000). Hence 100 candidates will be costing 85000. The range between 76-99 will be the determining factor for this..

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Shg,


    Sorry, got the numbers all jumbled up.... Hope the table below summarizes.....


    Range fixed In between
    1 to 50 1000 1 to 50 fixed at 50000
    51-75 800 51 - 74 for 75 participants, not to exceed 70000 ie; 50000+20000.
    76-100 600 76-99 for 100 participants, not to exceed 85000 ie; 50000+20000+15000
    101-150 400 101-149 for 150 participants, not to exceed 95000 ie; 50000+20000+15000+10000
    151-200 200 151-199 for 200 participants, not to exceed 100000 ie; 50000+20000+15000+10000+5000

    The prices should vary for the values in between the ranges.....

    Thanks for your patience........

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Sorry, I don't follow any of that.

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Maybe this:

    Row\Col
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    D
    E
    F
    2
    Attendees
    Price Each
    Delta
    3
    0
    $ 1,000
    1000
    D3: =C3-N(C2)
    4
    50
    $ 800
    -200
    5
    75
    $ 600
    -200
    6
    100
    $ 200
    -400
    7
    150
    $ 100
    -100
    8
    9
    Attendees
    Total Price
    10
    50
    $50,000
    C10: =MAX(50000, SUMPRODUCT((B10>$B$3:$B$7) * (B10 - $B$3:$B$7) * $D$3:$D$7))
    11
    51
    $50,800
    12
    13
    74
    $69,200
    14
    75
    $70,000
    15
    76
    $70,600
    16
    17
    99
    $84,400
    18
    100
    $85,000
    19
    101
    $85,200
    20
    21
    149
    $94,800
    22
    150
    $95,000
    23
    151
    $95,100
    24
    25
    199
    $99,900
    26
    200
    $100,000
    27
    201
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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Shg,

    Halleluia.... God be praised...... You nailed it.... All this while I was under the assumption that ExcelForum was sick of my queries after confusing them and wasting their time... Great to see your work... All credits to you....

    Just slight modification, the ranges are in increments of 5, 10 etc.. in your work..... I have explained my desired result in the attached workbook.

    Great work....
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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Row\Col
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    D
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    F
    2
    Per Participant
    1000
    3
    Minimum Participant
    50
    4
    No of Participants
    75
    5
    Tiered Pricing
    $ 70,000
    C5: =MAX(50000, SUMPRODUCT((C4>$B$11:$B$15) * (C4 - $B$11:$B$15) * $D$11:$D$15))
    6
    Service Tax Rate
    12.50%
    7
    Service Tax
    $ 8,750
    C7: =C5*C6
    8
    Total Program Cost
    $ 78,750
    C8: =C5+C7
    9
    10
    Attendees
    Price Ea
    Delta
    11
    0
    1000
    1000
    D11: =C11-N(C10)
    12
    50
    800
    -200
    13
    75
    600
    -200
    14
    100
    400
    -200
    15
    150
    200
    -200

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Shg.

    While this is excellent and is on par with what I had on mind, I have a few questions...
    a. Will I be able to change the values for the ranges?
    b. Am I expected to drag and drop the formula or is it auto populated? Cos I don't understand the F column and its functions....

    I am glad that you nailed my requirement....

    Thanks again..

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Ooopss... What a dumb person I am... I realized that I had to copy the formula from f column to the reference cells and VIOLA its working fine........


    SHG.... You are my saviour..... You have saved my day.... from where I am now it is the early morning....... Good way to start the day....

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    You're welcome.

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    SHG,,,


    If at all it helps, I would like to give you more stars... Unfortunately, your system wants me to share with others....

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Hi I need excel help in formula spreading sales which is full year number . over the period of jan-decc by month. also there is what if scenarios if function of spreading sales. can anyone help in formula.
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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    Please take a few minutes to read the forum rules, and then start your own thread.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Tiered prorata pricing

    hi shg,

    I guess you will help me again with my earlier post which was already solved by you..

    I tried copying the formula from the F column to the cell references, and they do not seem to work. Am I missing something here?

    I have the need to use this formula for pricing after a long time.

    Need your help again. Could you please put it in a excel sheet? I have been trying to copy the formula to no avail.

    Thanks again.

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