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    Compound Interest Earned With Periodic Withdrawals

    Thanks in advance to all those smarter than me for helping me find the answer to this question I am looking for a formula which will compute interest earned (not ending account balance) for the following scenario:

    1) Set $ amount (say 19250) is deposited on January 1.
    2) Annual interest rate is .95%
    3) Interest is compounded daily
    4) Fixed withdrawals of $1750 are taken each and every month on the first day of each month

    What is the total interest earned on the account? Basically, it is a issue where each month diminishes the "pool" of money earning interest. I get what's going on conceptually, but can't figure out which Excel function to use.

    Thanks a bunch!!

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    Re: Compound Interest Earned With Periodic Withdrawals

    Hi KingAir and welcome to the forum,

    Instead of doing a formula, why not do it a day at a time. You have all the info. See my example sheet.
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    Re: Compound Interest Earned With Periodic Withdrawals

    Thanks Marvin....takes the time to build me a spreadsheet and everything. What a guy! Let me look at this and see if it works for my needs. I take it based on your answer that you DON'T believe there is a more simple "fx" style formula built into Excel that will do the trick. Is that correct?

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    Re: Compound Interest Earned With Periodic Withdrawals

    Quote Originally Posted by KingAir View Post
    I am looking for a formula which will compute interest earned (not ending account balance) for the following scenario:
    1) Set $ amount (say 19250) is deposited on January 1.
    2) Annual interest rate is .95%
    3) Interest is compounded daily
    4) Fixed withdrawals of $1750 are taken each and every month on the first day of each month
    The total interest can be approximated as follows:


    A
    B

    1
    Init Bal Date
    1/1/2014

    2
    Init Bal 19,250.00
    3
    Annl Int Rate 0.9500%
    4
    Withdrawal 1,750.00

    5
    Monthly Int Rate 0.0792% B5: =(1+B3/365)^(365/12)-1
    6
    # Periods 11 B6: =INT(NPER(B5,B4,-B2))
    7
    Final Bal 91.96 B7: =FV(B5,B6,B4,-B2)
    8
    Total Int
    91.96 B8: =B7-B2+B6*B4

    Note: It is only a coincidence that final balance equals total interest. Replace 1750 with 1700 to see the difference.

    Of course, you can combine the formulas into a single formula.

    The approximation assumes equal months (365/12 days), which is not realistic.

    A more accurate calculation requires a monthly schedule like the following:


    E
    F
    G

    1

    Int Bal
    2
    1/1/2014
    19,250.00
    3
    2/1/2014 15.54 17,515.54 F3: =G2*((1+$B$3/365)^(E3-E2)-1)
    4
    3/1/2014 12.77 15,778.31 G3: =G2+F3-$B$4
    5
    4/1/2014 12.74 14,041.04
    6
    5/1/2014 10.97 12,302.01
    7
    6/1/2014 9.93 10,561.94
    8
    7/1/2014 8.25 8,820.19
    9
    8/1/2014 7.12 7,077.31
    10
    9/1/2014 5.71 5,333.02
    11
    10/1/2014 4.17 3,587.19
    12
    11/1/2014 2.90 1,840.08
    13
    12/1/2014 1.44 91.52
    14
    Total Int 91.52
    F14: =SUM(F3:F13)

    The formulas in F3:G3 are copied down through F13:G13.

    Arguably, earned interest should be rounded monthly. So the formula in F3 should be:

    =ROUND(G2*((1+$B$3/365)^(E3-E2)-1),2)

    However, some financial institutions accumulate fractional interest and add it to the account appropriately.

    (On the other hand, one mutual fund that I know of rounds interest on a daily basis. That is unusual, in my experience.)

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    [EDIT] Slightly better design for the monthly schedule:


    E
    F
    G H

    1

    Int Withdraw Bal
    2
    1/1/2014
    19,250.00
    3
    2/1/2014 15.54 1750.00 17,515.54 F3: =H2*((1+$B$3/365)^(E3-E2)-1)
    4
    3/1/2014 12.77 1750.00 15,778.31 H3: =H2+F3-G3
    5
    4/1/2014 12.74 1750.00 14,041.04
    6
    5/1/2014 10.97 1750.00 12,302.01
    7
    6/1/2014 9.93 1750.00 10,561.94
    8
    7/1/2014 8.25 1750.00 8,820.19
    9
    8/1/2014 7.12 1750.00 7,077.31
    10
    9/1/2014 5.71 1750.00 5,333.02
    11
    10/1/2014 4.17 1750.00 3,587.19
    12
    11/1/2014 2.90 1750.00 1,840.08
    13
    12/1/2014 1.44 1750.00 91.52
    14
    Total Int 91.52
    F14: =SUM(F3:F13)
    Last edited by joeu2004; 08-03-2014 at 03:06 PM. Reason: better amort sched; typos

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    Re: Compound Interest Earned With Periodic Withdrawals

    Thanks so much! Think this will work. Always amazed by the helpfulness of people online. Wish we could replicate it in the population at large. Good karma for everyone today. Big thanks

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