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Need a formula for loan payment schedule (not PMT) that reflects additional payments made

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    Need a formula for loan payment schedule (not PMT) that reflects additional payments made

    I cannot get a formula to work in excel. It has a lot of math equations to be solved in sequence through parenthesis. I can make it go only so far. Basically, I put the last parenthetical on there and then I get a pound sign result. Here is the math I need; how can I make it work?...

    =((E6/1200)+((E6/1200)/(((1+(E6/1200))^E7)-1)))*E5

    E5 = $66523.25
    E6 = 6.8%
    E7= 120 (payments)

    This is the math itself… (.0056666666+(.0056666666/((1.0056666666^120)-1)))*66,523.25 and that should = $ 765.55175


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    This worksheet is obviously for a 10 year loan with 120 payments. Right now I am just using the pre-made amortization formula with the combination of =PPMT and = IPMT. However, this series of formulas merely kicks out a pre-made number for each of the 120 payment installments based on the initial life of the loan and the planned payment schedule without reflecting any changes made during the life of the loan. If I make an additional payment, that amount will not be reflected in the interest due on the new principal amount remaining, or on the amount of payments left as I chip away at the principal ahead of schedule. I want each cell to draw from the total amount paid, and the principal amount remaining, so that I can see the life of my loan. I want a column for my monthly payment, which would stay constant based on the 10 year payment plan, and a column for additional payments, which could be any amount I chose varying from month to month, but I want to see how the additional payments change the remaining balance and the amount of payments left.
    I have looked at many pre-made excel templates and online loan calculators/generators and cannot seem to find anything that will simply create a worksheet that will calculate the loan based on payments made and actual remainder amounts. I figured having the math worked out itself, instead of using the PMT function, was a good start. But if there is a better way to do it without the above formula, I'm all ears!

    Does anyone have any bright ideas to accomplish my goals? Or does anyone know of a template that will function for what I want?

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    Re: Need a formula for loan payment schedule (not PMT) that reflects additional payments m

    Quote Originally Posted by alma_gimpy View Post
    Here is the math I need; how can I make it work?...

    =((E6/1200)+((E6/1200)/(((1+(E6/1200))^E7)-1)))*E5

    E5 = $66523.25
    E6 = 6.8%
    E7= 120 (payments)

    This is the math itself… (.0056666666+(.0056666666/((1.0056666666^120)-1)))*66,523.25 and that should = $ 765.55175
    Your first formula should be (removing some unneeded parentheses; optional):

    =(E6/12 + E6/12 /((1 + E6/12 )^E7 - 1))*E5

    But more simply:

    =PMT(E6/12,E7,-E5)

    formatted as Number, if you wish. (If you format as General, Excel insists on changing the format to Currency every time you edit the formula.)

    The key is -E5; that is, representing the present value (loan balance) as a negative number, if you want PMT() to return a positive number.

    Interest rate (6.8%) is divided by 12, not 1200, because we want a monthly rate. Note that you wrote 6.8% in E6, not 6.8. So the percentage is already divided by 100. That is, it is the number 0.068, not 6.8.

    Quote Originally Posted by alma_gimpy View Post
    I want each cell to draw from the total amount paid, and the principal amount remaining, so that I can see the life of my loan. I want a column for my monthly payment, which would stay constant based on the 10 year payment plan, and a column for additional payments, which could be any amount I chose varying from month to month, but I want to see how the additional payments change the remaining balance and the amount of payments left. [....] I figured having the math worked out itself, instead of using the PMT function, was a good start.
    Regarding "math" v. PMT, you're talking about apples and oranges. Use PMT to compute the regular monthly payment based on the original amortization of the loan. But use simple arithmetic to calculate the loan balance month by month, which can easily account for additional payments as well as missing payments.

    Download "alma loan sched.xls" (click here) [1]. The table below presents the first few lines.


    D E
    F
    G
    H
    I
    J
    K
    1



    Pmt# Reg_Pmt Addl_Pmt Int_Pmt Balance
    2







    66,523.25
    3



    1 765.55
    376.97 66,134.67
    4



    2 765.55
    374.76 65,743.88
    5
    Loan 66,523.25
    3 765.55
    372.55 65,350.88
    6
    Annual_rate 6.80%
    4 765.55
    370.32 64,955.65
    7
    Loan_term 120
    5 765.55
    368.08 64,558.18
    8
    Reg_Pmt 765.55
    6 765.55
    365.83 64,158.46

    Formulas:
    E8: =ROUND(PMT(E6/12,E7,-E5),2)

    K2: =E5
    G3: 1
    H3: =IF(G3="","",IF(G3=$E$7,ROUND(K2*(1+$E$6/12),2),MIN($E$8,ROUND(K2*(1+$E$6/12),2))))
    J3: =IF(G3="","",K2*$E$6/12)
    K3: =IF(G3="","",K2+J3-H3-I3)
    G4: =IF(OR(G3="",G3=$E$7),"",G3+1)

    Copy H3:K3 down though H362:K362 and copy G4 down through G362 to allow for up a 30-year loan with monthly payments.

    Enter additional payments into column I. Enter a negative number into column I, or change individual regular payments in column H to reflect short or missing regular payments.

    Note that E8 and H3 are rounded to the cent (smallest coin of the realm) to reflect reality. Consequently, even with just regular payments, the last payment might be different. In this example, payment #120 is 765.85, not 765.55.

    In contrast, J3 and H3 are purposely not rounded. In reality, each lender has its own rules for handling fractional interest and balance amounts. In my experience, most do not round to the cent. But some do round to a fixed number of decimal places; for example, 6 or 8.

    Because the last balance is not rounded to the cent, sometimes it is infinitesimally more or less than zero due to anomalies of 64-bit binary floating-point representation and arithmetic, used by Excel.


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    [1] https://app.box.com/s/2apdms9rjn9319ubquvl
    Last edited by joeu2004; 05-18-2014 at 11:16 AM. Reason: cosmetic change

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    Re: Need a formula for loan payment schedule (not PMT) that reflects additional payments m

    Errata....
    Quote Originally Posted by joeu2004 View Post
    G4: =IF(OR(G3="",G3=$E$7),"",G3+1)
    The formula should be:

    G4: =IF(OR(G3="",G3=$E$7),"",IF(ROUND(K3*(1+$E$6)/12,2)<=0,"",G3+1))

    That accounts for reducing the balance to (nearly) zero early due to additional payments.

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