How to overlay(?) additional data on a series

[DavidJ726]

I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display time
and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured by
digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's a
temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000 rows
of data for a 16-17 minute roast.

The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a maximum
of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.

Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up to
17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is where
I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is used to
display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data showing bean
(Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.

During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is regulated
to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure gauge is what
I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the effects of the
gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording range anywhere from
1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever point in time the
adjustment was made.

I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y axis,
and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?

Thanks,
David

[Andy Pope]

Hi,

Can you not plot the Gas pressure on the secondary Y axis. Double click
the data series based on column E and on the Axis tab of the Format
dialog pick Secondary axis.

Cheers
Andy

DavidJ726 wrote:
> I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display time
> and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured by
> digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's a
> temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000 rows
> of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>
> The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a maximum
> of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>
> Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up to
> 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is where
> I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is used to
> display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data showing bean
> (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>
> During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is regulated
> to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure gauge is what
> I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the effects of the
> gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording range anywhere from
> 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever point in time the
> adjustment was made.
>
> I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y axis,
> and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>

--

Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
http://www.andypope.info

[Kelly O'Day]

David:

As I understand your problem, you want to plot temp (150 - 475) and pressure
(1 - 12) against time. The pressure readings are showing up very small
because the temperature range is much higher.

You can solve this by using a secondary axis for the pressure readings. To
create the secondary axis for pressure readings, select the pressure series
by right clicking it, Click the Selected Object > Select Axis > Secondary
Axis Option Button.

You can format the secondary axis by adding title and setting range to fit
your needs.

...Kelly

koday@processtrends.com



"DavidJ726" <DavidJ726@hasnoaddress.com> wrote in message
news:%23WQjnLHaGHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
> time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
> by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's a
> temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
> rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>
> The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a maximum
> of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>
> Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
> to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
> where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
> used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
> showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>
> During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is regulated
> to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure gauge is
> what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the effects
> of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording range
> anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever point in
> time the adjustment was made.
>
> I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
> axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>

[DavidJ726]

Thanks Andy,

That doesn't appear to work. If I set the scale to match that of the
primary axis then the data doesn't show up at all. if I use a smaller scale
such as 1-12, then the data displayed is irrelevant. What I really need is
the ability to show an occasional label on the Series C (bean temp)
indicating gas pressure at that time & temp point. The secondary axis
doesn't "track" with the series C.

Thanks,
David


"Andy Pope" <andy@andypope.info> wrote in message
news:ucdaEVHaGHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Can you not plot the Gas pressure on the secondary Y axis. Double click
> the data series based on column E and on the Axis tab of the Format dialog
> pick Secondary axis.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
> DavidJ726 wrote:
>> I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
>> time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
>> by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's
>> a temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
>> rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>>
>> The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a
>> maximum of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>>
>> Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
>> to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
>> where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
>> used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
>> showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>>
>> During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is
>> regulated to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure
>> gauge is what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the
>> effects of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording
>> range anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever
>> point in time the adjustment was made.
>>
>> I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
>> axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>
> --
>
> Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
> http://www.andypope.info

[DavidJ726]

Hi Kelly,

You and Andy (whom I just responded to) are both saying the same thing. I
guess I need to go back and try again. But when I plotted the series using
the secondary axis, and tried various ranges, the data was either at the
bottom of the chart, or when using a smaller scale, the data was accurate
just not displayed in a meaningful location. What I really need is for the
pressure reading to be displayed on the line at the corresponding time and
temp using the primary axis. Does that make sense? ( I wish we could post
snapshots here:-))

Thanks,
David...

"Kelly O'Day" <dkod@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23$$zgHaGHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> David:
>
> As I understand your problem, you want to plot temp (150 - 475) and
> pressure (1 - 12) against time. The pressure readings are showing up very
> small because the temperature range is much higher.
>
> You can solve this by using a secondary axis for the pressure readings. To
> create the secondary axis for pressure readings, select the pressure
> series by right clicking it, Click the Selected Object > Select Axis >
> Secondary Axis Option Button.
>
> You can format the secondary axis by adding title and setting range to fit
> your needs.
>
> ..Kelly
>
> koday@processtrends.com
>
>
>
> "DavidJ726" <DavidJ726@hasnoaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:%23WQjnLHaGHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
>> time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
>> by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's
>> a temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
>> rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>>
>> The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a
>> maximum of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>>
>> Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
>> to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
>> where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
>> used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
>> showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>>
>> During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is
>> regulated to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure
>> gauge is what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the
>> effects of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording
>> range anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever
>> point in time the adjustment was made.
>>
>> I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
>> axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>
>

[Andy Pope]

You can use a free addin to link the 1-12 scores to the data labels on
the Bean Temp series.
Try Rob Bovey's xy chart labeler.
http://www.appspro.com/Utilities/ChartLabeler.htm

Obviously this will display a value for every time point so you may need
to use another column with a formula that only displays interesting
data, for example when ever the pressure changes (assuming it doesn't
change with every data point).

Cheers
Andy

DavidJ726 wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
>
> That doesn't appear to work. If I set the scale to match that of the
> primary axis then the data doesn't show up at all. if I use a smaller scale
> such as 1-12, then the data displayed is irrelevant. What I really need is
> the ability to show an occasional label on the Series C (bean temp)
> indicating gas pressure at that time & temp point. The secondary axis
> doesn't "track" with the series C.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> "Andy Pope" <andy@andypope.info> wrote in message
> news:ucdaEVHaGHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Can you not plot the Gas pressure on the secondary Y axis. Double click
>>the data series based on column E and on the Axis tab of the Format dialog
>>pick Secondary axis.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Andy
>>
>>DavidJ726 wrote:
>>
>>>I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
>>>time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
>>>by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's
>>>a temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
>>>rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>>>
>>>The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a
>>>maximum of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>>>
>>>Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
>>>to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
>>>where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
>>>used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
>>>showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>>>
>>>During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is
>>>regulated to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure
>>>gauge is what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe the
>>>effects of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm recording
>>>range anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at whatever
>>>point in time the adjustment was made.
>>>
>>>I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
>>>axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>David
>>
>>--
>>
>>Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
>>http://www.andypope.info
>
>
>

--

Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
http://www.andypope.info

[DavidJ726]

That did it! Thanks :-)

You're correct in assuming that the gas pressure doesn't change all that
often, perhaps a dozen time in a roast (and yes, the data is in a separate
column)

I can now return to my normally unscheduled madness.

Thanks again,
David


"Andy Pope" <andy@andypope.info> wrote in message
news:%23ZxXktHaGHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You can use a free addin to link the 1-12 scores to the data labels on the
> Bean Temp series.
> Try Rob Bovey's xy chart labeler.
> http://www.appspro.com/Utilities/ChartLabeler.htm
>
> Obviously this will display a value for every time point so you may need
> to use another column with a formula that only displays interesting data,
> for example when ever the pressure changes (assuming it doesn't change
> with every data point).
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
> DavidJ726 wrote:
>> Thanks Andy,
>>
>> That doesn't appear to work. If I set the scale to match that of the
>> primary axis then the data doesn't show up at all. if I use a smaller
>> scale such as 1-12, then the data displayed is irrelevant. What I really
>> need is the ability to show an occasional label on the Series C (bean
>> temp) indicating gas pressure at that time & temp point. The secondary
>> axis doesn't "track" with the series C.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>>
>> "Andy Pope" <andy@andypope.info> wrote in message
>> news:ucdaEVHaGHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Can you not plot the Gas pressure on the secondary Y axis. Double click
>>>the data series based on column E and on the Axis tab of the Format
>>>dialog pick Secondary axis.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>DavidJ726 wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
>>>>time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
>>>>by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's
>>>>a temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
>>>>rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>>>>
>>>>The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a
>>>>maximum of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>>>>
>>>>Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
>>>>to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
>>>>where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
>>>>used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
>>>>showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>>>>
>>>>During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is
>>>>regulated to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure
>>>>gauge is what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe
>>>>the effects of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm
>>>>recording range anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at
>>>>whatever point in time the adjustment was made.
>>>>
>>>>I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
>>>>axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
>>>http://www.andypope.info
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Andy Pope, Microsoft MVP - Excel
> http://www.andypope.info

[Kelly O'Day]

David

Why don't you send me your file and I'll see what I can do.

koday@processtrends.com

...Kelly


"DavidJ726" <DavidJ726@hasnoaddress.com> wrote in message
news:%23zz66rHaGHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Kelly,
>
> You and Andy (whom I just responded to) are both saying the same thing. I
> guess I need to go back and try again. But when I plotted the series
> using the secondary axis, and tried various ranges, the data was either at
> the bottom of the chart, or when using a smaller scale, the data was
> accurate just not displayed in a meaningful location. What I really need
> is for the pressure reading to be displayed on the line at the
> corresponding time and temp using the primary axis. Does that make sense?
> ( I wish we could post snapshots here:-))
>
> Thanks,
> David...
>
> "Kelly O'Day" <dkod@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%23%23$$zgHaGHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> David:
>>
>> As I understand your problem, you want to plot temp (150 - 475) and
>> pressure (1 - 12) against time. The pressure readings are showing up very
>> small because the temperature range is much higher.
>>
>> You can solve this by using a secondary axis for the pressure readings.
>> To create the secondary axis for pressure readings, select the pressure
>> series by right clicking it, Click the Selected Object > Select Axis >
>> Secondary Axis Option Button.
>>
>> You can format the secondary axis by adding title and setting range to
>> fit your needs.
>>
>> ..Kelly
>>
>> koday@processtrends.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "DavidJ726" <DavidJ726@hasnoaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23WQjnLHaGHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm using a line chart that has 5 columns and 100's of rows to display
>>> time and temperature for a coffee roaster. Time & temp data is measured
>>> by digital probes (etc.), which is imported into a spreadsheet. There's
>>> a temperature reading for every second so I can end up with up to a 1000
>>> rows of data for a 16-17 minute roast.
>>>
>>> The Y axis is Temperature. The minimum value is 150 degrees with a
>>> maximum of 475 and has a 25 degree scale.
>>>
>>> Column A is where I enter a value of 00:00, 00:30, 1:00, 1:30, etc... up
>>> to 17 and this is used for the X axis labels. Column B (Series A) is
>>> where I'll enter a dozen or more temperatures along the time line and is
>>> used to display a desired profile. Columns C & D is the imported data
>>> showing bean (Series B) and ambient (Series C) temperatures in the drum.
>>>
>>> During the roast, temperatures are monitored and gas pressure is
>>> regulated to increase or decrease the heat. The reading on the pressure
>>> gauge is what I need to show along the Series B line so I can observe
>>> the effects of the gas adjustments to the roast. The values I'm
>>> recording range anywhere from 1 - 12 and are entered into column E at
>>> whatever point in time the adjustment was made.
>>>
>>> I can't plot it as a series because the values are to small for the Y
>>> axis, and text boxes would be to labor intensive. Is this possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>
>>
>
>